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fossilesque@mander.xyzM to Science Memes@mander.xyzEnglish · 10 months ago

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  • Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works
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    Remember folks, if you pirate scientific papers you’re stealing from the hard working…wait a minute…

    • Renacles@lemmy.world
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      You wouldn’t download a car

      • casmael@lemm.ee
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        I would, actually

        • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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          I’d 3D print that shit so hard on my shitty little Ender.

        • Renacles@lemmy.world
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          Why stop at one?

      • ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world
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        Lol you wouldn’t download knowledge.

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    and don’t use Sci-hub people. I am warning ⚠️ you so you can avoid it 🫡

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      Thank you for the warning. I almost received free and convenient access to a large catalog of academic articles, and no one wants that.

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        deleted by creator

      • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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        these terrorists want to give free access to tax funded research, it is disgusting.

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      Annas Archives

      • xspurnx@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        Came here to post this. It’s so evil, it even has ebooks meant for entertainment.

        Never visit downmagaz either!

      • nonfuinoncuro@lemm.ee
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        o7

    • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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      dont ever use this, it has almost everything

    • YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      Also Nexus Search Telegram bots

  • mEEGal@lemmy.world
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    but wait…

    where meme part ?

    • cybervseas@lemmy.world
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      Didn’t you know? Screenshots of social media posts are memes now 🙃

      [email protected] suffers from this but it’s 1000% worse there.

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    Just like the Olympics. The companies are vampire squids.

    • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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      vampire squid makes them sound cute, they are literally the scum of the earth: They are leeching billions from what is normally a tax funded sector and on the side heavily polarising publishing and access to science in favor of rich countries.

      • Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world
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        Yeah they are more like Humboldt squid. They live below most things, in the dark, and surface when it is dark. They will eat others, of their own kind, if they are injured, or otherwise inhibited, or because their group isn’t finding adequate feeding fast enough.

      • Neon 🏳️‍🌈🇺🇦🇪🇺🏳️‍⚧️🇹🇼🇮🇱🏳️‍🌈@lemmy.world
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        I thought you were a Biologist and were going on an actual rant about actual vampire squids lol

        • iAvicenna@lemmy.world
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          no I just imagined a small squid with tiny fangs

  • Snapz@lemmy.world
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    New textbooks have disappearing ink that only lasts, about one semester, until a month before finals, and then in that month they trigger dynamic pricing increases due to a stronger than typical demand…

    • fossilesque@mander.xyzOPM
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      Don’t give them ideas.

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      Don’t give them ideas for free.

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    Just here to say fuck Elsevier.

  • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world
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    NGL if I was a college professor in this situation I’d be pirating my own work fuck these guys

    • barnaclebutt@lemmy.world
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      I do it all the time. Something something sci-hub. If you ask, the authors will almost always share a preprint.

  • ace_garp@lemmy.world
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    Or, publish to PLOS ONE, the open-access science journal.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PLOS_One

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      I have a stupid question but what are the costs of a journal like this? I mean, if they don’t pay the researchers and the reviewers, what do they do?

  • HexesofVexes@lemmy.world
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    And they wonder why…

    • ulterno@lemmy.kde.social
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      TIL: In the PotC universe, The legs of the pier are noclip underwater.

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    Reviewers and writers actually do get a stipend, but it’s a token amount like 200 bucks a year. This industry is the most ass backward incentive structure we could possibly create, the only reason writers would provide articles to a journal is literally for the clout.

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      Really? I’ve reviewed and published a good chunk of papers and never received any financial compensation.

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        Well, you received a token amount of 0 bucks an eternity.

    • RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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      That’s not an incentive, they’re mocking you with money

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      I’ve never gotten a stipend or heard of someone getting a stipend for publishing or reviewing manuscripts. The only thing I’ve been offered is access to the journal.

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        Depends on the journal I guess, my wife worked at multiple publishers and there’s normally an insultingly small stipend for the editorial board members and writers

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      They all got bought up by venture capitalists like a decade or more more ago, and this is the result.

      They were already backward, but now they are backward, ruthless about cost cutting, and care about nothing but profits.

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      I’ve heard of some journals promising to pay their reviewers Amazon gift cards which they never end up sending out

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    That seems like a very lucrative market to interrupt

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    As much as I’m against parasitic practices, I wonder how the inevitable corruption of money would (further) skew research if academia was well paid for their papers.

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      We’re not saying pay the authors a bunch, we’re saying make the papers free to read. Or at least don’t charge authors and readers both, while keeping all the money for yourself.

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      And I wonder how, not having the pressure to “succeed” research (to gain further grants), would increase the quality of said research.

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        I quit a physics phd path just under a decade ago because my experimental results were turning up negative and the uni I was at pushed me to doctor my results so we would keep getting funded. I also wonder about this

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    Why are we looking at revenue? We don’t know the operating costs. What are the profit margins?

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      According to Wikipedia, in 2022 Elsevier’s revenue was 2.909 billion pounds and their net income was 2.021 billion pounds.

      Not going to bother looking up the rest.

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    That’s money better spent on shutting down libraries.

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    I did get paid for reviewing for a Springer journal though. Next to nothing, but it’s not zero.

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