i’ve been told so many times on the lemmyverse that holding biden, trump and kamala accountable, in the only way that i can, for supporting genocide brands me a single issue voter; it’s nice to see a reminder that others out there understand how truly morally bereft it is and give it the weight it deserves.
thanks for sharing; i needed to see it.
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That they should abolish (or at the least push for drastic, dramatic reforms, not promises of gradual reform maybe someday during election season but a mass movement, amendments, political action, pressure groups, etc) such a system rather than participate and kick the can down along the road.
Also that their rights will be taken away regardless if they’re going to lose them.
Biden has done nothing to reverse what Trump has done, he postures, he does a few meaningless policies but at the back of it all he doesn’t value the lives of those people you claim to care about because he won’t stack the Supreme Court, because he and Kamala and the rest of the Democratic party are not interested in actually fighting the Republicans. Their theatrics that Trump is Hitler 2.0 shows them to be either people who want to enable Hitler 2.0 because they obviously aren’t fighting tooth and nail and are quick to condemn someone trying to kill him (when let’s be honest, most of us wouldn’t condemn a person who shot at Hitler) OR people who don’t truly believe that but know it’s good branding. Either way they’re not a party worth voting for, worth endorsing or worth considering as a real option to protect the vulnerable in this country or any other.
Fact is Republicans do the dirty deeds, Democrats put some peace paint and pride symbols on things but don’t undo those dirty deeds. During Trump’s term pundits and the Democratic party sobbed and wailed about “kids in cages” on the border and yet when Biden continued it? Nothing but silence. And Kamala’s campaign is ramping up and leaning into that border racism by the way.
the person you’re responding to is making the generic liberal assumption that biden’s policies are too far progressive to ever hurt anybody’s life and trying to make the point that i’m being dismissive of what trump and republicans are trying to do.
i have receipts so i already know that they’re merely towing the party propaganda line; but thank you nonetheless for articulating these points.
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their lives will be slightly less impacted than mine thanks to biden, clinton, both bushes & obamas’ support for executive order 10450; don’t ask, don’t tell; defensive of marriage act; student loan debt; draconian immigration policy & blocking truly affordable EV’s with tariffs.
i’ve had the joy of experiencing my life partner deported; my life along with my livelihood dismantled; arrested for simply being brown, gay & willing to stand up for myself; losing multiple jobs because of those laws; and then trapped into inescapable debt until i die because of those & policies laws that every single one of those guys fully supported (and created) up until they needed my vote.
if they’re not american; then they get to experience genocide and a coup d’etat’s; all fully supported by those same people.
if you’re referring to project 2025; then you should know that it’s been in existence since 1980 and every single one of those politicians; especially biden; have enacted nearly 75% of project 2025’s recommendations since then; it’s not the boogeyman that they told you to be afraid of.
Anyone complaining about all the terrible things that might happen to people under Trump hasn’t been in Texas or Florida over the last four years.
It’s nauseating to see Democrats throw their liberal fellows in arms under the bus, election cycle after election cycle, on the grounds that they deserve to suffer for having a fascist governor.
All that is already happening under a democrat administration. What power do Americans have other than protest or vote? We’ve tried protesting; we got shot. So, maybe the only way forward is to NOT vote for a democrat UNTIL they develop a HARD stance against genocide and therefore, Israel.
All we have left is to threaten that, if democrats don’t stop supporting genocide, we won’t vote for them.
In my experience, those people already know that the potential effects on their lives isn’t more important than genocide.
what do you say to people that will be hurt if trump wins?
I would say they should not have voted for him.
What do you say to people that will be hurt if Harris wins?
The one difference I have here is Harris is kind of trapped. She doesn’t have the authority to sanction anyone or stop weapons shipments. So all she could really do is resign. And that’s pretty much political suicide. As things stand I think she’s our best hope to stop those shipments. It’s not a very bright hope I admit. But of the three she’s it.
she needs to speak out & issue statements against it as publicly and frequently as possible to make it clear that she intends to stop american support for the genocide to get people to vote for her.
From the objective POV, that’s what we want. Not what she needs. Everything I’ve ever learned about politics says don’t go radical in the campaign unless you’re desperate. And by radical I don’t mean ideologically. I mean going where the polls are less than 60-99 percent in favor of something. And that has to be micro as well. For example it doesn’t help her if she goes hard left if the state she needs to win doesn’t have a hard left population big enough to support that. Or worse, she trades a state for it.
We really have the world’s worst way of electing our Executive. So she’s going to stay in that position of demanding a cease fire, and talking about civilian casualties until the campaign is over. And she’s right to do so unless there’s polling to say that’s more harmful to her than making a statement to take a side with Palestinians.
I would love for her to come over and fully denounce Israel. But the politics of the situation don’t allow for it. She’s not tarred in the same way as Biden and she’s going to stay neutral as long as she can.
I would love for her to come over and fully denounce Israel. But the politics of the situation don’t allow for it. She’s not tarred in the same way as Biden and she’s going to stay neutral as long as she can.
i’ve assumed this is why she had to meet with netanyahu in private after he addressed congress; something of an overture to those who boycotted it.
and i wish she had less of biden’s political tar on her so that i could be happy w the statement released after that private meeting to nudge that voting needle towards kamala instead of west or stein.
There is no reason to believe she will differ from Biden given her past record.
You know it’s not a color revolution when the signs aren’t printed in English to be regurgitated by Western corporate media.
is that dr breen
His city 17 speech immediately flooded my head lmao
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Jesse…What the fuck are you talking about?
Literally just showed a picture of a demonstration.
In Yemen.
And you gotta go off about Biden/Trump.
Also. Biden isn’t running for office anymore.
Nice collection of straw men you made there. Real nice.
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