So, aside from your vagaries of comparative biochemistry and pharmacology which sound smart, but aren’t relevant to the topic, and a couple of citations from ChatGPT that basically say that the animals got high and were taken to be monitored when exposed to very high doses, you don’t actually have any evidence to support your claims that it’s “toxic”, which you directly admit.
In fact, the evidence you posted supports my claims that it behaves pretty much the same way it does in humans, aside from the fact that dosages should be adjusted for the body weight of a cat.
So, yeah. That’s why I don’t blow the smoke directly in my cat’s face because it’s too much. I blow it near him, so he can take hits at his own pace.
I’ll pretend your choice of words isn’t low-key confrontational and dismissive like every other comment on this site. I also hope that you’re replying in good faith and not just mocking me because you’re clinging to what you want to believe, and that I’m not the anti-pot boogeyman for replying with what you asked. We’re adults, right.
But I have some questions.
How are the pharmacokinetics not relevant to the conversation? Maybe to someone who knows pharma. But for everyone else, this is the context needed to realize how vastly different metabolic and physiological differences affect other species so that they don’t mistake thinking that “ultra-mega-concentrates” like you said are the only way to cause harm because that’s how humans behave. That tells me that you either don’t know much pharma or you’re vastly underplaying the effects, so I had to reel it in.
Also, just because I asked Consensus doesn’t devalue the research. Everything links back to the abstracts so please focus on those or link to your own. I know AI hate is wild here but, in this case, it’s accurate.
One of the hallmarks of drug poisoning is literally breathing suppression and hypothermia. When was the last time you felt that smoking pot? Are these symptoms not valid, do you have some other insight, or what’s going on?
evidence you posted supports my claims that it behaves pretty much the same way it does in humans
Read carefully. It does not.
dosages should be adjusted for the body weight of a cat
And how will you do that? There’s no therapeutic index. Not a single longitudinal study of cannabis consumption exists for pets to say that a few blows in their face depending on your mood that day won’t cause long-lasting harm. You’re gambling your cat’s health. As they say, lack of evidence is not evidence of absence. The first case is a great example of a cat showing extended periods of altered state far longer than they last in a human. It’s one night of rest for you vs two weeks of recovery for that cat at the vet, and that’s just an acute intoxication. And the fact that acute intoxication was even achieved in a cat is a clear sign there’s a lower tolerance for them.
And I will add that I find it contradictory that you demand evidence but simultaneously expose your pets despite the evidence and lack thereof.
You’re being unusually argumentative, and this argument with you is extraordinarily tiresome.
You haven’t presented any evidence that any harm is being done, and you’re over complicating this argument Beyond any point that is necessary. That’s why I’m being dismissive. You continue assert that there is something wrong when you have presented no evidence that supports that claim. In fact, you constantly evade that claim.
It’s not up to me to prove your claim, it’s up to you, and you haven’t. In fact, the evidence you did present supports my position. The fact that you can’t seem to understand that tells me that you’re more interested in arguing than you are in accepting facts. Also, that at this point, you’re probably just trolling me. Also, that I should probably just block you and move on with my day.
Pfft. That’s the most ridiculous answer you could’ve given and you avoided every single one of my questions. I’m not sure if you’re looking for particular signs of cytotoxicity or you want he to prove that it causes hypoxia or what. But there are clear signs of intoxication that you’re actively ignoring just to confirm your beliefs.
I repeat my last line. What incredible irony to ask for evidence, dismiss it, and still do it despite it and in the absence of it. You’re actively not interested in the facts or give proper weight to them. Block away. I’m not sure why I’m also wasting my time and energy with someone who doesn’t want to listen in earnest and would rather poison their pets and keep being confrontative beyond reason. Oh well, I thought we were adults.
Not to mention, your cat has the intelligence of maybe a 3 year old. You’re sitting here arguing about whether or not it’s toxic to give weed to a cat when it has the ability to consent as much as a 3 year old does.
Enjoy whatever you enjoy, IDC - you’re a bad person for exposing your cat to the smoke, moreso that you’re doing it with the intent of getting it high whilst ignoring the potential downsides.
Could be worse— I could care about imaginary internet points or be confused about the meaning of the word “toxic”. But I suppose that such is the life of one who fills their day judging internet strangers.
So, aside from your vagaries of comparative biochemistry and pharmacology which sound smart, but aren’t relevant to the topic, and a couple of citations from ChatGPT that basically say that the animals got high and were taken to be monitored when exposed to very high doses, you don’t actually have any evidence to support your claims that it’s “toxic”, which you directly admit.
In fact, the evidence you posted supports my claims that it behaves pretty much the same way it does in humans, aside from the fact that dosages should be adjusted for the body weight of a cat.
So, yeah. That’s why I don’t blow the smoke directly in my cat’s face because it’s too much. I blow it near him, so he can take hits at his own pace.
I’ll pretend your choice of words isn’t low-key confrontational and dismissive like every other comment on this site. I also hope that you’re replying in good faith and not just mocking me because you’re clinging to what you want to believe, and that I’m not the anti-pot boogeyman for replying with what you asked. We’re adults, right.
But I have some questions.
How are the pharmacokinetics not relevant to the conversation? Maybe to someone who knows pharma. But for everyone else, this is the context needed to realize how vastly different metabolic and physiological differences affect other species so that they don’t mistake thinking that “ultra-mega-concentrates” like you said are the only way to cause harm because that’s how humans behave. That tells me that you either don’t know much pharma or you’re vastly underplaying the effects, so I had to reel it in.
Also, just because I asked Consensus doesn’t devalue the research. Everything links back to the abstracts so please focus on those or link to your own. I know AI hate is wild here but, in this case, it’s accurate.
One of the hallmarks of drug poisoning is literally breathing suppression and hypothermia. When was the last time you felt that smoking pot? Are these symptoms not valid, do you have some other insight, or what’s going on?
Read carefully. It does not.
And how will you do that? There’s no therapeutic index. Not a single longitudinal study of cannabis consumption exists for pets to say that a few blows in their face depending on your mood that day won’t cause long-lasting harm. You’re gambling your cat’s health. As they say, lack of evidence is not evidence of absence. The first case is a great example of a cat showing extended periods of altered state far longer than they last in a human. It’s one night of rest for you vs two weeks of recovery for that cat at the vet, and that’s just an acute intoxication. And the fact that acute intoxication was even achieved in a cat is a clear sign there’s a lower tolerance for them.
And I will add that I find it contradictory that you demand evidence but simultaneously expose your pets despite the evidence and lack thereof.
You’re being unusually argumentative, and this argument with you is extraordinarily tiresome.
You haven’t presented any evidence that any harm is being done, and you’re over complicating this argument Beyond any point that is necessary. That’s why I’m being dismissive. You continue assert that there is something wrong when you have presented no evidence that supports that claim. In fact, you constantly evade that claim.
It’s not up to me to prove your claim, it’s up to you, and you haven’t. In fact, the evidence you did present supports my position. The fact that you can’t seem to understand that tells me that you’re more interested in arguing than you are in accepting facts. Also, that at this point, you’re probably just trolling me. Also, that I should probably just block you and move on with my day.
I’m gonna stick by Hitchens or razor on this one.
Pfft. That’s the most ridiculous answer you could’ve given and you avoided every single one of my questions. I’m not sure if you’re looking for particular signs of cytotoxicity or you want he to prove that it causes hypoxia or what. But there are clear signs of intoxication that you’re actively ignoring just to confirm your beliefs.
I repeat my last line. What incredible irony to ask for evidence, dismiss it, and still do it despite it and in the absence of it. You’re actively not interested in the facts or give proper weight to them. Block away. I’m not sure why I’m also wasting my time and energy with someone who doesn’t want to listen in earnest and would rather poison their pets and keep being confrontative beyond reason. Oh well, I thought we were adults.
Ratio’d.
Not to mention, your cat has the intelligence of maybe a 3 year old. You’re sitting here arguing about whether or not it’s toxic to give weed to a cat when it has the ability to consent as much as a 3 year old does.
Enjoy whatever you enjoy, IDC - you’re a bad person for exposing your cat to the smoke, moreso that you’re doing it with the intent of getting it high whilst ignoring the potential downsides.
Could be worse— I could care about imaginary internet points or be confused about the meaning of the word “toxic”. But I suppose that such is the life of one who fills their day judging internet strangers.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
You are either:
giving your cat a toxic substance
giving something with the intellectual capacity of a 3 year old weed
Both are toxic. You’re a bad person.