"Ain’t no snitches riding with us

Ol mo the mouth n***as could holler the front" - Lil’ Wayne

  • TurboWafflz@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Ooh yes good patent it so other manufacturers won’t do it. It’s a win-win since I already wouldn’t want a ford

    Edit: what it uses cameras to look at other vehicles??? That is much worse

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        Let’s be real, close to a majority of Americans have no issue with their iPhone being used as part of a mesh tracking network, even if it helps abusers with airtags.

        All they have to do is sell this to people as benefiting them, and they will gobble it up. Hell, chances are, insurance companies will start offering reduced rates if you drive one (and then they buy the data from Ford and increase rates with it).

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          Instead of paying 2000 dollars a month for your shitty lifted ford ranger you pay 1500 a month for your shitty lifted ford ranger, but the car will… SHUT THE FUCK UP, WHERE DO I SIGN?

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    Sooo how long before we find a way to jailbreak the thing and essentially have an on-board “give that car a ticket” button to report false speed data on any driver we happen to be pissed off at?

    …yeah I’d 100% abuse the fuck out of that.

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      Not just a law enforcement thing, either.

      Ford will absolutely, 100%, start selling this data to insurance companies, who will absolutely use it to increase rates.

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        4 months ago

        us insurance sounds insane, you are forced do deal with corporations in a scammy as fuck way

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          4 months ago

          How does it work elsewhere? We require doctors get malpractice insurance, and there’s growing support for making the police get liability insurance too.

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            I live in Estonia.

            For one, car insurance depends on your basic demographics (car registration location, owner’s years of driving/insuring experience), the car’s power rating and make/model - and finally, accident history. For any type of insurance that covers your own vehicle as well, it also takes into account the age and value of the vehicle (for the mandatory liability insurance, that’s irrelevant).

            For medical insurance, your prior medical history doesn’t matter, there are no premiums. Your options are (simplified, there are some others too):

            1. Work and have social tax paid for you by the employer (they don’t get to weasel out of this with a regular work contract)

            2. Be an entrepreneur and pay yourself at least the minimum monthly salary with social tax, the rest you can take out as dividends or invest into growing the company

            3. Be a student, including university

            4. Be underage (this also gives you dental! I do wish everyone got dental)

            5. Be registered as unemployed and at least act like you’re trying to find a job

            6. Have some sort of permanent disability that’s severely impacting your ability to work

            7. Have a child under 3 years old

            8. If nothing else applies to you, you can pay a certain sum which was either monthly or quarterly, to have the same health insurance (this is mostly for those entrepreneurs who don’t want to pay themselves even a minimum salary because they’re already loaded and would rather avoid paying payroll taxes on themselves and only pay income tax if/when taking out dividends). I suppose you could also do it if your income is entirely illegal and therefore untaxed.

            If you hit any of these, you pay €5 per doctor’s appointment, with some exceptions. Private care is more expensive. If you don’t in any way qualify for the national medical insurance, you’ll have to pay for your procedures and stuff, but the prices are reasonable usually.

            As for liability insurance for medical malpractice and the police - I’m not 100% sure, but I do believe that victims get compensated by either the hospital, or the government in the case of the police. In any case, it’s very rare for anything like this to happen luckily.

            I do believe life insurance that pays out if you die prematurely or get a major injury or disease, will still depend on your medical history - or at least whether you smoke and drink alcohol.

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    Ford could put all their R&D money into developing low-cost EVs, but they’d prefer to give the cops a handout.

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      Ford could put all their R&D money into developing low-cost EVs,

      Thus making the EVs very expensive… just sayin’

      Edit: I don’t know why you are downvoting. These are economic realities as they exist today. More R&D => greater costs => higher price. Fully Automated Luxury Communism is, unfortunately, not a likely reality in our lifetimes.

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          By minimizing costs, including R&D. Further, the lower the price the lower the profit and usually the lower the margin. Companies are not incentivitized to make less money.

          This is pretty basic stuff…

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            Companies are not incentivitized to make less money.

            If only it were physically possible to change that. Alas, the fifth law of thermodynamics says profit above all.

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              If only it were physically possible to change that. Alas, the fifth law of thermodynamics says profit above all.

              It is possible to change it, of course, but every attempt thus far has ended in authoritarian political systems with even less opportunity for you to be housed, fed and well cared for, much less able to get things like affordable EVs.

              I’m pretty convinced, sadly, that this is mainly because humans basically suck.

  • 🔰Hurling⚜️Durling🔱@lemmy.world
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    While I wish people would stop fucking speeding (you really aren’t getting there that much faster) and tailgaiting like fucking Talladega nights, I still think this is bullshit and fuck Ford for doing this.

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      The need:

      Don’t drive over people, kids, pets or other items such as personal property or buildings.

      The current status:

      People don’t do those things because mostly they are good enough not to run you over. Bad people on the other hand have no internal limits to prevent tragedy.

      The fix:

      You can’t go faster than the speed limit. Bad people can still drive you over or hit your car or house.

      You see how this works? The problem wasn’t even addressed. But additionally there’s the problem of “I’m at point A and would like to get to point B but not faster than the speed limit so the cop doesn’t shoot me 19 times in the back of the head.”

      The fix: you can’t go faster than the speed limit. This allows you to get to point B. However the cop can still shoot you 19 times in the back of the head even when you didn’t do anything wrong.

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      It’s an absolute win win.

      1. If they patent it, no one else can use the same system in the same way. So it’s contained to Ford.

      2. If they don’t end up using it. It’s simply a safeguard that no one else can either.

      3. If they do end up using it, people will shy away from Ford, making the roads safer for everyone.

      As I said. Win win. This is fantastic news.

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        4 months ago

        What if legislation says the feature needs to be added. And then everyone’s forced to buy a license from Ford to make it happen?

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          No one would be forced to buy a license from Ford. IF they decide it has to be on every car, and it’s that specific system, they would have to buy it out from Ford.

          But legislation like that doesn’t happen over night. It’s planned several years in advance so everyone has time to implement it.

          But if that’s what you’re worries about. I suggest you vote for whomever is opposed to it. And if no one is opposed. I suggest you protest.

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    This is likely for new models of Interceptors so that cops don’t have to hold those heavy radar guns to generate revenue. Instead they can automatically ticket speeders while driving to the donut shop or their next victim’s house.

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    You won’t buy a Ford because it’ll rat you out to the cops

    I won’t buy a Ford because they’re dog shit vehicles

    We are not the same

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      With how rarely Toyota’s break down, I hesitate to consider any other car company. Ford is near bottom of the barrel.

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      I rented a Ford focus once and it really was a dog shit vehicle. Every other vehicle could easily interface with my iPod but this piece of shit would need to scan the iPod for 5-10 minutes (making the head unit completely unusable in the meantime) at which point it would start playing some random song from the iPod that it bizarrely determined was first. That was the most obvious shitty design flaw, but literally every thing about the car was piss poor. If I hadn’t been against Ford already because they knowingly killed people with those defective Firestones, I would’ve completely turned against them from that one rental experience. Fuck Ford.

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      Yup! Wanna change your battery?

      “FUCK YOU, GO TO AND PAY A DEALER CAUSE WE BURIED THAT SHIT INSIDE THE FUCKING ENGINE COMPARTMENT!” -Ford

      I can’t believe no one has sued them for this anti-consumer bullshit. I don’t know anything about cars, but even I have been able to change the battery in every vehicle I have ever owned.

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      That face when you allow your factories in Europe to become war machines, but not the ones in your own home.

      Allegiances and all that.

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      What do you mean by tha-

      Only a single great man, Ford, to their fury still maintains full independence [from the control of Jewish masters]. -(Mein Kampf)

      Oh. Well, shit.

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    They could make a system that doesn’t allow the vehicle to speed but I guess allowing it and then snitching is better

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    Great, investors have a target to short sell in the car industry based on Fords bad product development

    This idea seems like what someone would come up with if they’re devoid from the reality of driving and have only been chauffeured around lol

    • dual_sport_dork 🐧🗡️@lemmy.world
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      Yeah, nobody would willingly buy this. I certainly wouldn’t. Never mind the obvious perpetual privacy violation baked right in to a hairbrained scheme like this, but could you ever fully trust it to work correctly and not ever randomly (or not-so-randomly) send people up for prosecution under false pretenses? I guarantee you the speed tattle system will be a black box, some dipshit legislator would pass a law making fucking with it or reverse engineering it a crime “because safety,” and then any time the state wants to harass anyone they can just ping somebody’s Ford to spit out a false speeding ticket (maybe even one that’s egregious enough to count as a felony like 130 in a 25, or whatever). And how are you going to be equipped to argue against it? It’s going to be your word against the computer and Ford’s army of lawyers and experts plus the police, in a system that’s already heavily stacked against the defendant.

      This will probably only see any actual use being built into police cars and maybe commercial fleets, but not civilian vehicles.