I despise this type of podcasts… just idiots (generally) rambling about themselves or shit they know nothing about.
oh shit
i hate that bro
so 99.99% of podcasts
maybe… but back when I had time to actually listen to a few podcasts, I had no trouble finding better ones that did not devolve into this shitty format
it helped that the number of people who have a podcast wasn’t quite as close to the number of people who have access to the internet as it is today.
Certainly!
How do you find one without spending weeks searching?
I’m an old fart… Back in my day I had less garbage to sift through
Ah that makes sense. I remember not getting the concept when they came out and then finding too many options when I looked later.
Through recommendations of other users. A list of things I used to listen to at some point:
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My Favorite Murder
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The NoSleep Podcast
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Welcome to Night Vale
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Limetown
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EOS 10
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A Problem Squared
They’re all close to 100% scripted and all but the first and the last one are fictional stories. So they’re more like an audiobook than anything, except they’re created with this form factor in mind, rather than just being a book read out loud.
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Specifically why I’ve never successfully listened to a podcast.
Plenty of good podcasts, but they are either 100% scripted to stay on topic, or they have the good sense to edit down the improv tangential rambles so that the podcast stays on topic.
Unsurprisingly it tends to be older (35+) people with some kind of professional experience putting out the better stuff. The 20-something dudebro postcasts where they just wing it the whole time are awful.
40 minute podcast about [subjext] is 10 minutes of actual content, 30 minutes of riffing, going off on tangents, taking about their other podcasts, sponsors, talking about their next podcasts, talking about each other, their day, etc…
You have not heard Dan Carling’s hardcore history podcast
I see what you are saying and agree it’s often the case, but there are gems out there
I know his podcasts well, I’ve listened to a lot of them. I’ve listened to far more podcasts that are more interested in hearing themselves talk.
Cracks open a can of beer right into the mic
dudes rock
🤦
This is why I almost exclusively listen to podcasts that are scripted, like casefile, freakonomics, this American life, radio lab, wait wait don’t tell me, etc.
Before this, all too often I would find myself listening to people aimlessly chatting about what they had for breakfast and such, and I realized those that scripted their episodes made for a tremendously better listening experience.
The only unscripted podcasts I listen to are D&D sessions
Adventure AI
I think radiolab is largely unscripted and also they leave a lot in that other podcasts would edit out. Imo this all makes the show as good as it is. It feels more authentic to me than a show like freakonomics for example. It’s more like hanging out with several people who are mostly really intelligent and who ask good questions of others who can often provide smart answers. I love radio lab so much… just my two cents as to why it’s that good.
Radiolab is very much scripted and it’s one of the best podcasts ever forever
“Loops” is my favorite episode.
NPR podcasts are generally made as audio documentaries, which is a combination of scripted sections and edited interviews.
Yusss. And I love them.
If it’s “very much scripted” that would make me think there aren’t utterances not written down ahead of time. I don’t doubt a lot of it is scripted/outlined, but if it really is strictly so, they’re absolutely crazy good at consistently hiding it.
Oh there’s a lot of off-the-cuff/improvised stuff for sure! But the structure of every episode is very much scripted. Also I’m sorry some douche downvoted you, you’re not at all wrong.
I agree that the structure is very planned. Definitely a lot of intentional decisions going on there. Thanks for the validation! Sometimes Lemmy puzzles me with the things people are so quick to dispute, and often it’s really just a matter of describing things slightly differently like we did here.
Radiolab is SO GOOD THO. If you haven’t listened to “Loops”, please do! It’s so hilarious and interesting.
“The Living Room” made both my partner and myself cry, as well.
Oh, also the episode where they discuss the symbiosis in forests and how in a sense the forest is almost like a super organism. So fascinating!
It really is such a good show. I forget so many episodes until I listen to them again years later! I think I’ve heard both of those, judging by their summaries online but I can’t be sure right off. My memory is crap but I always have loved the episode where they talk about color and how different animals experience it. I’ve listened to it maybe 3 times and it gives me chills each time. So damned good.
I appreciate the HP Lovecraft Literary Podcast, which has scripted readings punctuated by the hosts talking about the story being read.
Two important factors that make it work: First, the hosts are knowledgeable and engaged with the topic, which means their commentary actually feels like it contributes something. Second, when they do start to ramble too long, the editing just hard cuts them off and goes back on topic.
Casefile is a slog. I think its fascinating but it will eat away at your soul after a while and the host knows it cause it’s everything he can do to stay sane.
The others are top tier podcasts but once you’ve caught up, if you last that long, it’s forever between releases.
Isn’t wait wait don’t tell me a game show?
Well there’s your problem. It’s partly scripted. They have an agenda to go through, but they do some improvisation.
I tried to listen to a Kubernetes podcast once, where they talk to engineers who created it. They just fucking ramble about sports and unrelated bullshit for about an hour and I never listened to another episode.
It’s nice to be in a room with someone who knows their shit, and never actually talk about the shit they know about, and instead connect to them at a human level.
But that’s not useful for podcast listeners.
It was probably a lot more interesting… but yea, not useful if you’re there to hear about k8s.
I’ve dropped so many podcasts where the title was promising an interesting topic, but then inside it’s just these dudebros rambling about nothing. I don’t understand how some of these podcasts have so much popularity.
In the end, people just like hearing familiar voices. If you trick people into getting familiar with your voice, it doesn’t matter what’s being said as much as it seems.
I’m the same way. I don’t mind tangents that lead up to, or remain adjacent to, the primary topic. But if they get into small talk I’m out.
I guess let me see if anyone wants to listen to it, released TODAY:
Listen to ®hodes & (B)reaks All Day by Thassodar on #SoundCloud https://on.soundcloud.com/GNNMq
Check out the rest of my stuff at www.linktr.ee/thassodar, I’ve got 4 years of music on SoundCloud and various streaming platforms!
Reporting in that I did, in fact, want to listen to it, and did so. Thank you for sharing your work!
Thanks for taking the time to listen! Generally I don’t use Lemmy to promote, but when the chance arrives
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Listening now with morning coffee, quite a pleasant start to the morning I don’t mind saying.
SoundCloud link is broken for me and it’s not on Tidal, but I’m vibing to ThassChill Vol.1 at work rn. Digging it, you got a follow
Aww snap, here’s a new link:
https://on.soundcloud.com/tGU4f
I will typically drop several tracks on SoundCloud for a few months, pick the best ones, and then release an EP/Album with those good ones and a few originals.
SC makes it easy to post a track the same day and update or edit it, when I distribute through Spotify, Tidal, et al., it’s more permanent so I make sure everything is PERFECT before uploading to there. I know you weren’t asking for all this info but…yeah.
Worked, thanks. I like the vibraphone, whole track had a chill jazz jam feel to it. Keep up the good work my dude
Thank you!
Jumping on your bandwagon, I made this alt just to post my music today because of this post.
I’ve been making ambient music since 2008 (and before, probably) mostly kept it on my computer or dumped it to various sites and did no promo work 👍
Yeah, but what’s the name of the podcast?
Joe Rogan
Yep. The difference between investing a couple hours vs. hundreds of hours.
“bro that’s why you bring your cooler if you’re buying ice cream bro”
Everyone starts out with shortcomings. No one is born with talent. Learning something you want to do is easier than ever with YouTube and the internet.
Think positive, take what you want.
Literally HeavyMetalHangover lol
Every time I see these kinds of d-bags, I hear Bum Bag’s “another white boy with a podcast” in my head.
Short version: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/UMgKKhzRAkE
Full song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHlczKlmIDM