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    On May 19, 1992, during a crucial part of the presidential campaign, Vice President Dan Quayle delivered a speech on family values that came to define him nearly as much as his famous “potato” gaffe. During the speech, he criticized Murphy Brown a fictional 40-something, divorced news anchor on a popular situation comedy   for her choice to have a child outside of marriage. Quayle argued: “Bearing babies irresponsibly is simply wrong.

    Same Shit Different Decade

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      Ew.

      Taken out of context, the phrase almost sounds like it could be used to argue for education, contraception, and healthcare access, not whatever grossness he’s actually meaning in context.

      I agree it should only be done responsibly, which is why I’m in favor of people have the information and tools to ensure it only happens when they’re prepared and able to do so.

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    JD Vance’s 4chan tripcode will be discovered one day, and we’ll find out exactly how far down the rabbit hole goes.

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    Lmao, I might be a childless cat lady, but at least I’m not a miserable bigot with an insatiable lust for upholstered furniture.

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    You could have tried to explain your way out of the 2021 comment. But nope he just goes head long into it.

    I hope we get Mark Kelly as VP now, a fucking astronaut against this clown would be the greatest juxtaposition ever.

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    Even if you raise taxes on people without kids, it will still be cheaper than having kids. Saying that childless people have no stake in the country and maybe their voice should be worth less is wild. But can’t say I am surprised since shit is always flowing out of their mouths.

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      Taxes are already higher for people without kids. That’s literally the point of the child tax credit.

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    Keep it Republicans. Can’t wait for Republican men to complain to their wives about the possibility of a woman becoming President, especially a black woman. Their hate will turn into their spouses rebelling against them.

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      Doubtful. Keep in mind, a woman who marries a guy likely has the same (or very similar) beliefs.

      And there are women out there who believe what people like Vance are preaching - I’ve seen them on dating apps. They’re looking for strong alphas who can dominate them (and I don’t mean like how Vance dominates his couches).

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        I don’t know what to do with this information but ‘couches’ is diapers in French.

        🤷🏻

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          Someone made up a rumor that Vance wrote about fucking a couch in his memoir and it took off as a thing and now people are repeating it as if it’s true and I’m fine with that for once.

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    This feels misleading.

    Vance made it clear, said Aaron Fritschner, deputy chief of staff for Rep. Don Beyer (D-Va.), “that he meant no disrespect to cats, but he did mean to demean women and still holds the view in 2024 that they should be punished for not having children.”

    So the actual quote here is from a chief of staff of a Democratic representative, not from dolphin-loving couch-loving JD Vance. So it’s an accusation that interprets for us. And the tweet the article cites heavily edits the text it quotes:

    “Obviously it was a sarcastic comment. I’ve got nothing against cats. … People are focusing so much on the sarcasm and not on the substance … and the substance of what I said, Megyn — I’m sorry, it is true.”

    Heres a video of the clip without the editing: https://therecount.com/watch/obviously-it-was-a-sarcastic/2645895762

    Ok, so the edits here at least aren’t misleading…

    Then based on the 9 minute clip of her show in the original article, it seems like he’s claiming the substance is not about the cat lady comment, but some lies about what Democrats believe about families (democrats think kids are for the economy, republicans want to make it easier for women to stay in the workforce (I mean, is there a more blatant lie than that? They’re the ones who fight against extending COVID-era childcare credits!), etc). That’s what says he’s doubling down on. And given the context that does truly seem to be the lies he’s doubling down on.

    Let’s try to stick to sincere, defensible attacks against people for whom there are many valid attacks, and not spread misleading claims that JD is doubling down on “crazy cat ladies”. He’s shit and we can demonstrate that in good faith, or we can lie like he does.

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      Right. Saying JD Vance is a couch lover may be an out right lie. It’s more important that we state what we know; we cannot prove he never had sex with a couch.

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    Regarding the plan to give parents more voting power by assigning them an extra vote for each of their children, which parent gets to cast those extra votes? If I have three kids, do I get to cast four votes, or do they get split between me and my wife? Somehow I doubt he is suggesting that mothers get all this extra voting power, right? I’m sure the couch fucker believes that it’s a husband’s duty to officiate these extra votes for his family. Actually, I’m sure he thinks a husband should preside over his wife’s vote as well.

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    What a sh*t title. He did not double down on the attack. He regretted getting cat-keeping involved in his bigoted view on women with no children

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    Maybe we should get a betting pool going as to who is the least charismatic Republican ghoul. Vance seems to have a good chance to overshoot Ted Cruz, seeing as Cruz at least managed to convince somebody to marry him at some point, and have sex enough to produce offspring.