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Proton Wallet is an easy-to-use self-custodial wallet that makes financial freedom attainable for everyone.
  • narc0tic_bird@lemm.eeEnglish
    34·
    5 months ago

    They should stop adding more and more services and instead focus on making existing services better or - in some cases - feature complete first.

      • narc0tic_bird@lemm.eeEnglish
        71·
        5 months ago

        What, sending bitcoin? That’s not really a feature of Proton Mail, rather it’s a feature of the wallet that happens to be able to send bitcoin via email (I suppose so that the recipient can then transfer the funds to a bitcoin address of their choice unless their email address is already linked to Proton Wallet).

        Even if you’d consider this a feature of Proton Mail, how does this have higher priority than a proper iPad/tablet app, or the ability to add a .ics attachment directly to my (default, non-Proton) calendar without having to manually download the .ics file, open it with a file manager and then add it to the calendar? Filtered views (for example: view unread and starred messages but nothing else in one list)? A somewhat usable offline mode? The list goes on, and that’s just Proton Mail. Proton Drive still lacks a native Linux app (I know there’s “support” for Proton Drive in rclone, but that’s hacked together because Proton doesn’t even provide official API documentation and stability commitments).

        I’d rather pay for the individual services that I can actually (somewhat) use, like Mail (even though it’s not great), but their Mail only tier severely lacks in features (only 1 custom email domain is my main problem). If they’d then commit the financial resources towards improving the service being paid for, that’d be great.

  • gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    33·
    5 months ago

    I’ve been pretty happy with my swap to Proton lately, but this makes me nervous.

    Not that I hate AI or crypto, but their mail app, the thing they’re known for, is not feature complete on all platforms. I still cannot set or edit filters on mobile, for example.

    If your flagship app is missing basic features that users have reported for months but you just keep rolling out new shit, it starts to feel like too much like Google, yakno?

    • eating3645@lemmy.worldEnglish
      71·
      5 months ago

      The issue is that they’re neglecting their core apps in favor of expanding their portfolio. There’s nothing wrong with creating these apps, but it should not be done until the core apps are industry leading and extremely refined.

      The developers they used to create this wallet could have been used to fix protonmail bugs, or to bring protonvpn on Linux up to snuff. There’s still no first party CLI for Linux boxes, for example.

  • makeasnek@lemmy.mlEnglish
    8·
    5 months ago

    It’s open source, and it’s fully self-custody which are two important features. Having a wallet directly integrated into the e-mail client is nice, being able to send payments to other users just knowing their e-mail address instead of their public key is pretty cool. It does automatic address rotation to preserve privacy. Wish it supported lightning for cheaper/faster transactions and additional privacy but hopefully that feature comes in time.

  • GreenStar@lemmy.worldEnglish
    71·
    5 months ago

    Checking with proton themself, the main reason seems to be to further resistance in case another instance of a issue they had in initial funding, where paypal blocked all payments to them. A wallet was also heavily requested by business users, and proton is using randomization to reduce tracking detailed on their site. So long as they next work on environmental impact to balance out this stuff, proton is fine still. Here is the code for the wallet: https://github.com/ProtonWallet

    • GreenStar@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      5 months ago

      The reason they don’t support Monero at the moment is due to a few reasons, one of those being, proton doesn’t want to be a main support for illegal activity which means while they may adopt it eventually, they will be a late adopter. Proton is for privacy, not anonymity.

      • 0laura@lemmy.worldEnglish
        53·
        5 months ago

        cringe. monero is basically the only viable cryptocurrency. the rest is just for gambling.

  • bruhduh@lemmy.worldEnglish
    95·
    5 months ago

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scTjHvot3Uo To those who downvote, haven’t you learned that centralisation of services always ends horribly, remember Reddit, twitter, Google, remember why do we go to lemmy, why do we use Linux and self host services, because we wanted decentralised system that won’t enshitify as a whole, even if something goes bad, like meta’s threads, you can isolate it, yes? But if everything was centralised like in Facebook and others, could you do the same thing? Of course not, never forget folks, centralisation never goes well in the long run, but in short term it’s gonna be great if course

  • Zerfallen@lemmy.worldEnglish
    139·
    5 months ago

    I feel like some people just hear “crypto” or “ai” and start screeching and clawing at the air.

    Not every feature needs to be for you specifically, these features are optional and don’t compromise or even impact their other products. They seem to be on-brand in being more privacy-focused alternatives to some of the existing market options while remaining accessible, and keeps Proton in the game depending on how the landscape develops.

    I don’t use Proton (yet) but I generally like what they’re doing and hope they succeed, and I don’t see any of these developments as negatives, just more competition.

  • Veedem@lemmy.worldEnglish
    88·
    5 months ago

    All of this convinced me to give up on moving all my accounts to their service and just use the iCloud service I already pay for. Trying to get away from GMail and Google’s privacy policies, but it felt like these moves indicated greater change coming to a service I was sincerely optimistic about prior.

    • clothes@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      5 months ago

      I won’t be using these features, but I’m not sure there’s cause for concern. The implementation seems very sensible and legitimately privacy-centric. The LLM runs locally and is meant as an very basic email proofreader. The crypto wallet is a likely an extension of the password management tech they’ve already developed, with transaction features that some people care about.

      I can see why some people want these features, and I’m glad there are new alternatives.

      • mriormro@lemmy.worldEnglish
        66·
        5 months ago

        Coming from someone who hasn’t gotten into the weeds with this company, my understanding was that they did email. I was considering migrating over to them in order to de-google completely.

        This move, specifically, has caused me to reconsider and scrap those plans. Not every tech company needs to peddle ai and crypto bullshit.