This isn’t a gloat post. In fact, I was completely oblivious to this massive outage until I tried to check my bank balance and it wouldn’t log in.

Apparently Visa Paywave, banks, some TV networks, EFTPOS, etc. have gone down. Flights have had to be cancelled as some airlines systems have also gone down. Gas stations and public transport systems inoperable. As well as numerous Windows systems and Microsoft services affected. (At least according to one of my local MSMs.)

Seems insane to me that one company’s messed up update could cause so much global disruption and so many systems gone down :/ This is exactly why centralisation of services and large corporations gobbling up smaller companies and becoming behemoth services is so dangerous.

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    While I don’t totally disagree with you, this has mostly nothing to do with Windows and everything to do with a piece of corporate spyware garbage that some IT Manager decided to install. If tools like that existed for Linux, doing what they do to to the OS, trust me, we would be seeing kernel panics as well.

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        And if it was a kernel-level driver that failed, Linux machines would fail to boot too. The amount of people seeing this and saying “MS Bad,” (which is true, but has nothing to do with this) instead of “how does an 83 billion dollar IT security firm push an update this fucked” is hilarious

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    I’ve just spent the past 6 hours booting into safe mode and deleting crowd strike files on servers.

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      Feel you there. 4 hours here. All of them cloud instances whereby getting acces to the actual console isn’t as easy as it should be, and trying to hit F8 to get the menu to get into safe mode can take a very long time.

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        Ha! Yes. Same issue. Clicking Reset in vSphere and then quickly switching tabs to hold down F8 has been a ball ache to say the least!

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          What I usually do is set next boot to BIOS so I have time to get into the console and do whatever.

          Also instead of using a browser, I prefer to connect vmware Workstation to vCenter so all the consoles insta open in their own tabs in the workspace.

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          Just go into settings and add a boot delay, then set it back when you’re done.

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    Crowdstrike already killed some Linux machines. Let’s not pretend Windows is at fault here or Linux is magically better in this area. No one is immune from software that can run as a kernel module going bad.

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      Every system has its faults. And I’m still going to dogpile the system with the most faults. But hell Microsoft did buy GitHub, Halo, MineCraft, and a million other things they will probably find a way to buy Linux and ruin it for us just like they ruin everything else.

      Let’s see, …we are somewhere in between Extend and Extinguish on the roadmap.

      Edit: Case & Point, RIP RedHat & IBM and GitHub CoPilot, what a great idea. RIP Atom Editor and probably a million other things. Do we have a KilledByMicrosoft website yet? I hope people in the pharmacy could get their prescriptions or we might have to add peoples names to the list.

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        None of this has to do with the current outage though.

        I hope people in the pharmacy could get their prescriptions or we might have to add peoples names to the list.

        Which isn’t Microsoft’s fault. Linux systems have also been taken down by Crowdstrike’s fuck ups in the recent past.

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          Microsoft has many faults and I’ll criticize them as I please. And if Linux is a culprit in a global outage someday I’ll contemplate criticizing them too.

          This “Not Microsoft’s Fault” comes off as white knighting for Muh Billion Dolla Corporation.

          Do we really need to SIMP for the company town.

          Microsoft, Google, Apple, Amazon and others deserve every ounce of vitrol they earn through their shitty practices. Again I am criticizing them for being shitty not for the particulars of System X vs System Z but for the aftermath.

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            Except they haven’t done anything shitty this time. What you are doing would be a bit like claiming the Nazis are responsible for micro plastics. Like yeah Nazis are shit but making false allegations is just giving their defenders something to throw in your face. It makes you, and everyone who is critical of Microsoft look dumb. How about you criticize the company that actually screwed up? They are also a multi-billion dollar company, yet you aren’t blaming them for something that is clearly their fault.

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            Sure you can criticize as much as you want but if you are wrong in your criticism it just damages all of your criticism over all.

            In my opinion it is important to state facts not fiction. This was not Microsoft’s fault, no matter how much you hate Microsoft it still wasn’t there fault and saying that is was is incorrect and doesn’t solve the issue.

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        Also fyi Red Hat and IBM are still around and aren’t really a force for good anyway. Stop SIMPing for large companies.

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    I am born too late to understand what Y2K problem was, this (the result) might be what people thought could happen.

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      Kinda I guess. It was about clocks rolling over from 1999 to 2000 and causing a buffer overflow that would supposedly crash all systems everywhere causing the country to come to a hault.

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        Most old systems used two digits for years. The year would go from 99 to 0. Any software doing a date comparison will get a garbage result. If a task needs to be run every 5 minutes, what will the software do if that task was last run 99 years from now? It will not work properly.

        Governments and businesses spent lots of money and time patching critical systems to handle the date change. The media made a circus out of it, but when the year rolled over, everything was fine.

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          Also a lot of people were “on call” to handle any problems when the year changed, so the few problem that had passed unnoticed when doing the fixed and did pop up when the year changed, got solved a lot faster than they normally would.

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          We also got the worst version of Windows ever, ME. Tho maybe with all the BS they’ve done with 11 that might change.

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            I’d use ME before the adware that is the current version. It wasn’t that bad, it was just Win98 with some visual slop on top that crashed slightly more often.

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            I’m not sure I’d stick to calling it the worst version “ever” since MS is trying really hard to out do themselves.

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    Most people are completely oblivious because it only affects people using crowdstrike, which practically excludes general consumers.

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      I just had an Amazon package delayed for a week it says. It doesn’t name names but…

      A small number of deliveries may arrive a day later than anticipated due to a third-party technology outage.

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    US and UK flights are grounded because of the issue, banks, media and some businesses not fully functioning. Likely we’ll see more effects as the day goes on.

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    Same here. I was totally busy writing software in a new language and a new framework, and had a gazillion tabs on Google and stackexchange open. I didn’t notice any network issues until I was on my way home, and the windows f-up was the one big thing in the radio news. Looks like Windows admins will have a busy weekend.

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    I would be too, except Firefox just started crashing on Wayland all the morning D;

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        Yes but I upgraded to 555 at least a week or two ago and it started crashing a couple of days ago, I think there’s an issue with explicit sync

        explicit sync is used, but no acquire point is set

        If you Google this you’ll find various bug reports

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    It’s proving that POSIX architecture is necessary even if it requires additional computer literacy on the part of users and admins.

    The risk of hacking (which is what Crowdstrike essentially does to get so deeply embedded and be so effective at endpoint protection) a monolithic system like Windows OS is if you screw up the whole thing comes tumbling down.