• TrippyHippyDan@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    Don’t you just love how it’s all about states’ rights when it comes to things like abortion, but as soon as it’s gun control, the states’ rights don’t matter.

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      5 months ago

      To be fair, gun rights are an actual constitutional right. I don’t think the democrats ever tried to make an amendment to include abortion rights. For them, the threat of losing it was a good campaign issue.

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        5 months ago

        The idea that control over your own body and medical decisions can’t be sourced in the Constitution is ridiculous. If we don’t have the right to that then we don’t have the right to anything.

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          Correct. We also don’t have a right to privacy or many other things we all wish we had. A lot of what we rely on is just the court’s interpretation of laws and the constitution. We’ve recently seen how fragile those interpretations can be.

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      5 months ago

      The right of the people to keep and bear arms is explicitly in the Constitution. The Constitution supersedes state law.

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        You forgot half the amendment. These 18 year olds are more than welcome to sign up for military service.

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          You forget that every adult (codes say male technically, so you could try disarming women and see what the supreme court says) not involved in military service is legally considered to be the unorganized militia, and only the national guard are considered the organized militia.

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            5 months ago

            Oh so now it’s a normal law that we can change.

            Tell me are we handing muskets out to the unorganized militia?

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              If called to arms by the President, they would be armed like/by the National Guard and/or requested to bring their own guns. The unorganized militia is also known as the reserve militia to the Guard. Hopefully there is never an invasion severe enough to call the entire country to arms, but it is 100% possible.

              Everything is a law that can be changed, even the Constitution. It takes more to change certain laws, like the Constitution, and the Constitution prevents certain things from being part of laws. If you disagree with the 2nd, convince 75% of the country you are correct and we can change the law.

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                5 months ago

                That isn’t a thing. The closest thing to that is the draft. The president has no authority to call random people to service.

                And there’s still the issue of regulating this militia.

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                  I hate to break it to you, but yes, the President does have that power as the Commander in Chief. Multiple States also have the same codified in State law, and the Governor can do so as well. There are prescriptions for both volunteer requests from the unorganized militia, as well as drafting them as well.