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      No, they’re just the best, most scientifically proven way of understanding how the votes will likely turn out.

      Get your head out of your ass, please. We need action (in the form of a new candidate), not more hopium and copium.

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    we’re so fuckin cooked lmao, the dnc has straight up given up. the Bidenist regime and it’s stubborn refusal to negotiate with its voter base has condemned the US to another trump presidency. I hope they sleep well in the bed they made (they will, 4 years of trump won’t affect them at all. after all, they’re not the ones headed to the camps)

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      Or people could actually go out and tell others to vote.

      I don’t see just changing candidates doing anything; in fact, you’d probably get a ‘where were all the primaries?’ backlash

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        It’s not about just getting people out to vote, people don’t want to vote for Biden. This isn’t apathy, they see him as unfit.

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          Critically, in a two-party FPTP situation, you’d better think he’s less fit than Trump if your advice is to not vote Biden.

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            I’m not advising anyone, I’m stating a simple fact; Biden is showing all the signs of losing because people don’t like him and he’s too old.

            He is de-energizing the party. Him. Biden is.

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        Or people could actually go out and tell others to vote.

        Sure. This has been the strategy for a while, and has resulted in likely Biden voters becoming less engaged due to genocide and the general percieved cognitive decline as of late, and Trump voters becoming more engaged with events like the failed assassination attempt.

        Biden voters are largely going to end up holding their nose, while Trump voterd are largely going to gleefully show up in droves, if conditions continue.

        I don’t think this is a useful strategy, and will be a repeat of 2016.

        I don’t see just changing candidates doing anything; in fact, you’d probably get a ‘where were all the primaries?’ backlash

        If the majority of people support swapping out Biden, I think you’ll find that it won’t result in fewer voters. The DNC could also organize an emergency Primary, too. Doing nothing is handing Trump the win on a silver platter.

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        Approximately 100% of Biden voters would vote for his replacement. A non-zero amount of voters would also vote for this person. At this point sticking with Biden is conceding the election.

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          It’s called ‘learned helplessness.’

          They tell you that you’re screwed and you believe them.

          I don’t want to be one of the people who lays down and does nothing because someone posted something

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      While I don’t think Biden should have run for a second term, that’s not the scenario we live in. He is running, no viable Dems ran against him in the primaries. He will be their nomination. Anything else is almost Fantasyland.

      Now what ya gonna do?