• FuglyDuck@lemmy.world
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    5 months ago

    People, if there’s a child in the back seat, and it’s hot out… call the cops.

    If the child isn’t moving… pound on the window to try and rouse them. If you can’t…. Go to the opposite front window and break it.

    (You’ll have to be creative. It’s not easy to break automotive glass Something hard and concentrated. Or a big ass rock.)

    Also, probably preaching to the choir…. But….

    DONT LEAVE YOUR KID IN THE FUCKING CAR.

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      Skip calling the cops, if it’s hot break the window THEN call the cops, same for pets. In many places this is now the fully legal thing to do. If you wait even a little bit that can be the difference, you never know how close to death they are even if moving

      You can buy keychain tools for breaking windows easily, the trick is something hard and POINTY, really concentrated the force applied

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        The reason to call the cops right off is so they get there faster.

        If the kid is going to die in the seconds it takes to make get them rolling, they’re probably going to die outside the car, too. On the other hand, the sooner they get there, the faster they get advanced care.

        Additionally, it provides a bit of legal protection, having dispatch on the phone.

        Also, not even animal control will break into a car- they let the cops do that. The last time I dealt with it the cops waited for them to make the call that it was necessary.

        There was a puppy in the back of an suv. The window was cracked but the puppy was in a dog crate covered in blankets. The car interior was just under the threshold at like 90 or something, but the crate when they did open it was at like 105. It was a little cocker spaniel that was the sweetest little cuddle-bug.

        The assholes left the dog in the back in 90-degree weather to go to a baseball game. The worst part is that they could go pick up the dog after paying a fine. That dog deserved better humans.

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      Didn’t the Beatles make a song about how it’s perfectly safe to leave a living thing in a hot car?

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    We created laws to require seat belts, maybe it’s time we create laws that require the manufacturers to install tech to detect kids and pets left in hot vehicles and alert the authorities or at the very least sound an alarm.

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      Seatbelts are simple. Aside from the big brother distopian nightmare this proposal enables, I’m not convinced such a thing it technically possible.

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        I can see the headlines about the first time it’s rolled out… all the headlines are short people being mad that they were flagged as kids

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          Or the police officers who rushed on scene to find a bag of groceries in the back seat…after smashing a window…

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        I’ve had rental cars chirp back at me when I tried to lock them because my backpack was in the back seat.

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        PIR occupancy sensor + thermometer + window open sensor + seat occupancy sensor/scale + door lock/child lock sensor + decibel limit on microphone already in car

        Technically possible, yes. Most of the equipment is already there. It’s just a matter of tuning everything to work together to solve the specific problem. The bigger problem in my eyes is most people would treat this as a perfect solution instead of a last resort like what happened with Tesla’s FSD.

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        It’s more a question of money than feasibility. I’m pretty sure a couple manufacturers already have basic capabilities similar to this

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      Some cars have that already. I rented a Hyundai Elantra recently when my car was being serviced. It came with Rear Occupant Alert. Ultrasonic sensors can detect if there’s movement in the backseat when a driver exits the vehicle.

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      Almost all modern cars (made in the last few years) have some kind of warning when you turn the car off and something is weighing down the backseat. My car has it.

      Though it’s possible to turn it off, I think it should be required to not be toggle-able.

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        As someone who has no kids and doesn’t transport kids, no thanks. I don’t need it going off because I have random stuff in the back.

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          Gee, I didn’t realize two little dings like every third time you turn off your car (if there’s something on the seat) was so damn annoying. In fact, I hardly notice it even when I’m hauling stuff, which is about half the time I’m in my car.

          It’s not like it’s the seatbelt warning that constantly goes off until you finally put on your seatbelt.

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            I just don’t like meaningless sounds because if you get used to ignoring them, they aren’t useful. You’ll just ignore it when it actually matters.

            Ever read stories where people get backed over by forklifts and such with the obnoxious backup sounds? It’s the same thing. They’re used to hearing and ignoring the sound cause it’s not around them. So when it actually matters it’s literally in one ear and out the other.

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      wasn’t there something about a car theft with the child in the car and the company wouldn’t give the police the gps access because the owner wasn’t subscribed? that would be all that happens for this because US and Canada suck at regulating things.

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      Yeet-the-baby-tron™

      This brand new tech saves lives!!
      Upon detecting a small humanoid within the car after it has been locked the system automatically opens the sunroof & violently yeets the human at least 100m in a random direction to maximised it’s chances of getting some shade.

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      I mean what about a big red panic button, if pressed starts sounding alarms while also opening the windows. Only works in immobile cars and turns off when long pressed. Done.

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        Then the problem is with privacy laws that allow abuse and poor regulation, not with more capable cars.

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          The problem is with shitty zoning laws that enforce car-dependency – people wouldn’t be accidentally leaving their kids to die in hot cars if they didn’t need a car to get places to begin with.

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        Yup we should let preventable deaths happen just so you can feel an inch more private.

        Totally reasonable.

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      I wonder if that’s because it’s one of the most mentally draining ages.

      Often the parents forget about them rather than intentionally leave them with no windows open.

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        I wonder if it’s because 2-year-olds are usually pretty noisy, so when they’ve fallen asleep, it’s easier to forget that they’re even back there.

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    Parenting pro tip: Once the car seat is installed, check it every time you leave the car. Even before the baby is born, even if you are currently holding the baby.

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      Every time I leave a bathroom I go right back in to make sure I flushed. I know I did, but I still do. Same idea, albeit lower stakes.

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    It’s hot enough to cook an egg in there (I think), so please don’t cook your children too. They’re not food.

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      Lots of really hot climates, lots of cars, 3rd largest population in the world, and a very active news media.

      If India or Africa could afford cars you be hearing about it a lot there too.

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    Maybe we should require cars, since they are so big, to be reflective painted in such a way that they absorb less heat and passively dissipate heat.

    Idiot parents can only do so much.

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      Maintain air circulation and air conditionning when living presence is detected in the habitacle maintain temperature compatible with life. If needed, crack the windows open automatically.

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        There you go, that’s one thing…provide a hole at the top of the heat pile…the window cracking option could be one but it is not fail safe. Maybe the top of the roof is open all the time unless the ignition is on. That way if all power fails, there would be air flow through the interior.

        Next human detection. That’s nice, but if the roof was solar panels, it could power up a good sized fan. With 100W for example, I was able to power a car radiator fan and that’s like a house extractor fan.

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      Feasible in cities and large towns (if they have a reliable public transport infrastructure), not really feasible anywhere else.