• root@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    Very disappointing. Does Apple sell Air Tag data to 3rd parties?

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      7 months ago

      Apple cannot sell your AirTag data, because they don’t know it. It’s all encrypted.

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          7 months ago

          It lives in the same place as your other inaccessible data, which Apple has been unable to produce when served with warrants for iCloud data and the like.

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        7 months ago

        They sell AirTag location data? I honestly find that hard to believe. What’s your source on this other than big tech bad?

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          7 months ago

          Right, apple definitely doesn’t have access to the info on the products they make and sell to the public.

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              7 months ago

              Have you verified their encryption method? Where is the source code? Where is the third party public audit that verifies that it’s implemented properly with no other means of access?

              Blindly trusting that they say it’s encrypted is basically the same as no encryption

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                  7 months ago

                  I mean, None of these appeared to specifically be about the air tag. But it is at least does help show a general overall commitment to security. So it’s not as if it’s not a huge point in favor of trusting that the airtag data is safe

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                7 months ago

                On top of being privacy focused themselves, they are only working with AI parters who also pass a third party code review verifying that zero user data is stored.

                Shit on Apple for not being repairable, sure. Shit on Apple for their walled garden, sure. But shitting on Apple over privacy is insane. They are they only big tech company that actually cares.

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                7 months ago

                This is made up fantasy land paranoia. Charlie Day with a big board shit.

                Yep apple is secretly grabbing data that not one privacy expert has found. Just like those sneaky Alexas that are always listening to me.

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                7 months ago

                Yes, only the person with the key can decrypt. Apple doesn’t have the keys.

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    7 months ago

    I used to be a big user of tiles from their early days but when they sold to that shady company I threw them away and did the California privacy right action for them to delete my data

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    7 months ago

    I always thought the surveillance state was stupid even for the powerful. The problem is exactly what happened. They surveil their own security forces out of necessity. But if that info leaks it makes those proxies 1000% more vulnerable than the public they’re subjugating since way more people have a grudge against police and military personnel than some dweeb that watches Rick and Morty.

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    7 months ago

    I guess that crosses Tile off of my list of tracking devices for my belongings. Would I have to deal with an apple airtag then?

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    7 months ago

    We need an open source smart tag. I recently researched how the landscape has changed and, as an android user, still nothing good in available. I’m not sure if I remember right, but Google’s find my device was supposed to be open source or at least open spec? Might be worth looking into how easy it would be to code a lil firmware for this network myself. As much as I’d love a tag for things I cannot lose, the current options are throwing money away for no actual useful tracking (Samsung), forfeit your privacy (Tile, perhaps others), sell your soul (Apple).

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      There’s a few 3rd party solutions that are compatible with Google’s find my device coming out this year. Pebblebee just released a few trackers, and iirc chipolo is working on one too.

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    7 months ago

    They should have hired their own hackers like Thor from piratesoftwear to find their own weaknesses. There are a lot of hackers out there that run services like that, and these companies should take advantage of that.