• RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Enterprise, when it wasn’t actively sexually harrassing T’pol, was great.

    The problem is, the episodes where B&B are using Jolene Blalock as a sounding board for their fetishes are so bad, that it drags down the series as a whole.

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      9 months ago

      I’m not a huge trek nerd, but recently watched the whole series, and the two main irritations were the blatant/unnecessary/annoying/offensive sexualization, and the theme song.

      It’s easy to skip the opening sequence but the gratuitous fetishizing was pretty awful. The whole series would have been better without.

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        9 months ago

        The scenes in the isolation chamber in underwear applying gel to each other were totally unnecessary and unpleasant to watch, especially nowadays. They have aged very poorly.

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          9 months ago

          The scenes in the isolation chamber in underwear applying gel to each other were totally unnecessary

          I thought so at the time but later realized that was a key scene of the whole entire show. You missed a lot of the nuance. That was where T’pol developed her crush on Trip. Her crush on Trip was the only reason she became the first Vulcan to be able to stay aboard a human ship for longer than a few weeks. And T’pol’s presence on the ship advising Archer was what made Archer so successful in laying the groundwork of the entire federation.

    • Mzpip🇨🇦@lemm.eeOP
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      9 months ago

      LOL! But whether or not you like the theme song, I maintain that the visuals of the opening credits are the most imaginative of all the treks.

  • southsamurai@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    I very much enjoyed enterprise at the time, despite the horrible theme song and the flaws in writing that spotted most episodes.

    Now, part of that is being a huge Bakula fan. I love the way he throws himself into roles. I think though, had there been another age actor in the role I still would have enjoyed the show.

    It wasn’t great Trek. Probably the weakest of the older series, depending on tastes and criteria. Certainly wasn’t up to TNG, TOS, or DS 9. I’d put it on par with Voyager, though it was both bad and good in different ways, with the lack of attention being paid to established Vulcan history in Enterprise tipping the scales to it being lesser than Voyager.

    But I really liked that they tried to go back to the whole “wagon train in space” vibe. And the cast was great. Can’t hold the iffy writing against the cast, and there were some great moments where the actors kept things from being worse just by virtue of how they carried their characters.

    I don’t rewatch any of the series as a binge though, so my opinion might change when the flaws are showing up in rapid succession compared to the original pace of watching week by week and over time. I know binge watching made me almost hate shows I used to like a good bit (like Bones as an example).

    I can’t compare anything to the newer shows since I’ve kinda stopped watching much in the way of “tv” the last few years, so I haven’t caught any of the stuff that has been done in the last decade. Could be that one of the new shows would be worse, in comparison to the earlier shows, I dunno. Doesn’t help that I despise the reboot movies, and the fact e that they happened kinda soured me on new Trek overall. The folks running things don’t seem to be interested in the kind of shows that made me enjoy Trek in the first place, but that’s second hand impression from seeing what people say online

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      9 months ago

      All of them hold up pretty well when binging them, although I do fairly slow binges, maybe watching 3 - 4 episodes a day at most. There are episodes I dislike and I simply skip those when binging, which helps a lot. (For example DS9 is my favorite Trek but I really, really hate Vedik/Kai Wynn and skip the earlier episodes where she’s being an annoying bitch. I do watch the later episodes where she’s a lot more important, but I still hate her character so much. For TNG I skip all of season 1 and most of season 2.)

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    9 months ago

    It took me a few episodes to like Enterprise and now I really enjoy the series. I really wish it when t a couple of more seasons.

    The theme song was off putting to me at first. Once I bonded with the cast and characters it somehow became better and now I let it play for most episodes and even sing along.

  • Mzpip🇨🇦@lemm.eeOP
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    9 months ago

    Theme song aside (I don’t mind it) the opening credits are the best, most imaginative of all the treks.