• Sem@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    What android application supports RCS except Google Messages? So, for me it is not about “allowing iOS users communicate with Android users”, but about allowing communications between iMessage users and Google Messages users.

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      6 months ago

      Bingo. RCS is yet another proprietary protocol, one controlled by Google (GSMA who originally designed it have practically forgotten about it for a decade) and without an open specification. RCS also doesn’t have a standardised approach to encryption as it’s designed for lawful interception.

      So unless Apple have licensed Google’s implementation and extended version of RCS, this will be a shitty, insecure way to communicate between the Apple Messages and Google Messages apps and nothing more.

      Google did an impressive job applying pressure and suggesting RCS was a perfect solution when in fact it’s just putting more control in Google’s hands. RCS is not an open “industry” standard. You nor I as individuals can implement it without paying license fees to see the specification and fees to have our implementations tested and accredited.

      And Google have extended GSMA’s RCS with their own features (such as encryption) which is not part of the official standard and they haven’t made open either.

      If Apple had been pressuring Google to implement the iMessage protocol or whatever, we’d have been up in arms (and rightfully so).

      But instead of us all collectively hounding Apple and Google to ditch proprietary protocols and move to open ones such as Matrix, Signal, XMPP, etc (ones where we could all implement, use open source software clients, etc) we’ve got this shit:

      Proprietary, insecure, non-private communication protocols baked into the heart of hundreds of millions of devices that everyone is now going to use by default instead of switching to something safer, private, public, open, auditable, etc etc.

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        6 months ago

        If Apple had been pressuring Google to implement the iMessage protocol

        Lololol

        Yes and if christians had been pressuring congregations to worship Satan that woulda been super upsetting too.

        Edit: funny so many people are mad when you point out how absurd an argument is when it posits that a company might do the polar opposite of everything they stand for

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          6 months ago

          Nobody said Apple would do that. I don’t know where you got that from.

          They said that if Apple were to use their clout to pressure others into using an Apple-controlled ecosystem, people would be angry about it.

          Yet, because it’s Google not Apple, people are celebrating Google’s RCS as a good thing and them being the good guys.

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            6 months ago

            Aw poor wittle apple twied to make a text standawd but big bad google refused! uWu!