42 Dems voted for this nonsense.
Let me tell you how absolutely “shocked” I am to see Wasserman Schultz on the list of dems that voted for this. /s
None of them from my state…cuz I live in mfing Utah and I’m sure the entire Congressional delegation would happily write messages on IGF bombs.
Vote Blue no matter who!
I think you skipped US Government 101. In this country, if you’re not voting blue, you’re voting red.
I think you skipped reality 404. If you keep supporting right wing parties, you enable the right.
imagine sanctioning the ICC but not Netanyahu. Evil
Imagine supporting terrorism against Israel. Evil
Imagine supporting terrorism against Palestinians. Evil
Supporting a racist apartheid regime commiting genocide is evil. Supporting an end to the apartheid and equal rights is not.
Netanyahu isnt Israel. At least put some effort into your bullshit propaganda.
There’s no terrorism against Israel and never was.
Well. That’s not true.
Israel is committing genocide. But that doesn’t mean Hamas is a blameless party in everything they’ve ever done. They’re just the only representatives and defense for the Palestinian people. They’re basically the only port in a storm. But let’s not pretend they’re fucking saints here.
At the end of the day, Hamas are far right fundamentalists. Right now, they’re the relative good guys—but only because of how unbelievably evil Israel is being. If Israel weren’t committing genocide against the Palestinian people, Hamas would probably be doing odious things to stay in power (the last time they were elected, I believe less than half of the current population was alive. And they were elected in the early 2000s. Although that doesn’t say much other than how young the population of Palestine is). Because they’re not “good,” it’s just what Israel is doing is pushing the needle for “bad” so far to the right that Hamas can’t help but coming out looking better by comparison.
Are Ukrainians fighting against genocide today terrorists as well?
Hamas and Ukraine are not the same. Hamas is a far right religious organization—which proves how complex and nuanced this situation is, because it’s not a secret that Ukraine has a neoNazi problem among a few of their regiments. It’s not what Russia is saying, that the whole force is Nazis and therefore they need to continue their genocide, but it’s pretty quickly visible when you look that the huge disadvantage that Ukraine is at has made them make some uneasy alliances with horrible people.
When Hamas is firing missiles, they’re not committing terrorism. But when they start attacking, capturing civilians to make a point, you’re crossing the line into terrorism. Why a music festival? Was that a fight against genocide? No. That was to instill fear. That’s the difference. Ukraine didn’t shoot up that Russian concert like Russia tried to claim. That was a terrorist act committed by a terrorist group.
There’s fighting the genocidal government, and then there’s fighting people’s ideas with horrific acts against civilians.
This is an incredibly nuanced topic because, you’re right, it’s a very strange gray area. Hamas is fighting against a genocidal government. But that’s done on the ground, that’s done with missiles. Attacking a music festival is pretty clearly meant to break the will of people. Not the government. (And in this definition, we can very easily say the Israeli government is committing genocide, apartheid, and they’re using terrorism to do it.) This has been proven true by the fact that Israel is only using the hostages as an emotional trigger for Israelis to continue supporting the government’s genocide. See what I’m saying?
Putin says yes. And he passed sanctions against ICC.
We’re learning in real time that the ICC and UN are great tools, until they disagree with you, at which point they can be ignored and even threatened.
That’s what all the baddie countries do.
Next it’ll be Team America putting Hans Blix in a shark tank.
Hans Brix! Hans Brix!
Khan (ICC Chief Prosecutor) told CNN that an unnamed official had told him the ICC was “built for Africa and for thugs like Putin”.
Source (timestamped: 19:00) https://youtu.be/6BquEw4kNNE?si=xA2MKh03QAXkENvG&t=1140
Which shows that this “unnamed official” was dumb as fuck and didn’t do his homework.
What do you mean by “didn’t do his homework”? That “unnamed official” was clearly racist as fuck. Not sure about dumb, but definitely racist.
It’s good to see someone in such a high position standing for human values, even though the sanctions are likely going to fuck him.
What exactly makes you think they were ever great tools?
The Illegitimate Court Counteraction Act, led by Texas Republican Rep. Chip Roy, would require mandatory sanctions and visa restrictions on any foreign person working or providing funds for the ICC in prosecutions against the U.S., Israel or any other U.S. ally that is not party to the ICC.
Oh no, anything but that.
“you’ve seen our war crimes, now you’re no longer welcome here”
As if you’d go be a tourist in a country, just after you’ve seen solders of said country commit, or politicians and citizens actively defend war crimes. Plenty of pretty cool other things to see.
How does that work, exactly? Half the world countries are members of the ICC, and therefore, provide funding for it.
Rules for thee, not for me.
Way to take decisive action on important issues.
His is it they can sanction the ICC but when SCOTUS judges flaunt their corruption, they’re all “welp nothing we can do lol.”
I guess I’m gonna have to start practicing a New Zealand accent so I can travel in peace. G’day, mate! Wait, no. That’s wrong.
Is there a Duolingo for picking up an accent? Or maybe I can do something else. How much Buckfast do I need to drink before I sound Scottish?
US citizens were pretending to be Canadians back in the day
Funny. As Canadians, we say we’re Americans when we do stupid shit abroad.
House has had their heads firmly embedded in their asses for so long now theres no use trying to yank them out
Meamwhile ICC has arrest warrant for Putin. Those reps are honorable members of United Russia.
@[email protected] Hey look it’s the Dems voting for the thing you said they weren’t voting for. Again.
About 25% of Democrats compared to 100% of Republicans. But sure, go off about how the Democrats are the bad guys here
Mhhh move that goalpost baby.
Natanael thought it was really important to mention to me that Democrats don’t do this “Republican” stuff. He specifically mentioned this specific ICC sanctioning to distinguish the Democrats and Republicans. Surely he will change his mind right now right?
When 25% of your party is down with sanctioning the institution prosecuting Genocidal war criminals which will very likely be convicted for Genocide in the future, it’s Nein o clock.
Wait, so a different guy on a different thread said something and you think that means I’m moving goalposts?
Fucking hell man, get a grip. 75% of Democrats voted against this and you’re here ranting about them instead of the 100% of Republicans who voted for it.
So what you’re saying is the problem is not Democrats jumping the fence as much as needed to do whatever israel asks, the real problem is that we should have had 32% more Democrats to make up for the percentual difference in traitors?
You dumb?
