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    innovate its product features

    What. It’s meant to stream music. Tf do you mean?

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      The bad Ai dj. The car thing they rolled back. The new logo that’s the same as the old one, but now border. The cache that causes you to hear the same ten songs multiple times in a week.

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        the playlist saved for offline playback that will still try to connect to the internet for like 30 seconds when you open it while actually offline. the Discover Weekly playlist that will serve you the song that you’ve marked as “not interested” over and over and over and

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          The UI that gets progressively worse with each update, ruining what was perfectly fine before. The attempts to create the audio focused equivalent of TikTok.

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            The way shuffle constantly shuts itself off even when set within the settings to be the default. The shitty Smart Shuffle that adds in songs that break up my playlists terribly. The way it plays the same song again the first time you enable shuffle and hit next.

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              The “repeat” option that activates itself is probably the most frustrating bug. I can’t recall the last time I legitimately wanted to listen to a song on repeat but it enable itself very often.

              If I could simply remove the feature I would.

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        The cache part pisses me off. I’m fucking paying you to stream me music. Not the same fucking shit over and over and over again.

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      If anything, they’ve taken features away from people lately. The quality is still shit. Lossless is still nowhere to be seen. Free users are losing options too. Yet they’re making record profits, and jacking up the price

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      AI generated music based off your likes and listening. It lines up with his statements. There was no innovation here. The same as every “disruptor” technology that just cheapified everything and one it was ubiquitous attempt to remove the core of the business.

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    So now that Tidal has moved its Hi-Fi tier price down to match Apple’s wtf is Spotify doing? Charging more than the competition, paying artists less, and not even offering lossless?

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    The average person: Spotify sucks and is making me hate them even more

    Shareholders seeing layoffs followed by AI replacements for those workers and then repeated price hikes: 🤑

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      The myth of capitalism is that it improves things for the consumer. It’s very obvious that it only improves, at best, the next quarter’s returns for the investor. Once that husk of a company stops “line going up,” the money goes elsewhere and we repeat.

      If the line can’t go up through creation it’ll go up through destruction.

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        It worked differently before speech was considered money. Or I like to tell myself that.

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          It worked differently before because the information network was orders of magnitude slower and data was expensive as Pope shit.

          Nowadays, the information is almost instant and everything is interconnected and data storage is cheap so we got big data with people paid solely to boil that down to algorithms that squeeze money as much as possible from customers.

          Just look at all the streaming services that makes you pay more if you don’t want ads and they resell your data. Triple dipping baby

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            This is for sure a big part of it also. Greed greed and greed being the main draw lol

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              Everyone that works for a company is poorer, every company is scraping by and making cuts, but executives are making more and more money

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        The myth of capitalism is that it improves things for the consumer

        So you don’t think your life is better than someone from the 16th century?

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          I’m so tired of this nonsense argument, is capitalism your God to which you give credit for every human accomplishment? How did capitalism help to raise the Russian serfs to the status of a world superpower? It didn’t… How did capitalism help Russia get to space before the United States? How did capitalism help human life improve before the 16th century?

          I wonder what you even think capitalism is. I wonder if you comprehend that technological advancement, markets, money, and trade aren’t synonymous with it.

          You love democracy but when it comes to matters of economic decisions you are bootlicking the petite dictators that control every aspect of your economic life. You are employed by people whose means of acquiring wealth is to skim off the top of what you’re producing and steal it from you but you are too busy making eye contact while you suck them off that you don’t see their hand in your pocket.

          The world is burning and there’s plastic in your balls because of capitalism, you are such a good submissive little peasant.

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    I suppose I’m a “content creator”. I write music.

    I WISH all my recording gear was free. Fucking hell. The amount of money I’ve wasted in the last 30 years… sheesh.

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    Apple Music pays multiple times more to artists than Spotify.

    Tidal pays multiple times more than Apple.

    You can influence things with your wallet.

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      If you can, and they have it on there, buy your favorite albums on Bandcamp, then they are yours forever

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      Tidal pays multiple times more than Apple.

      On paper. But in practice…

      On February 27, 2016, Yesh Music, LLC and John Emanuele from the band The American Dollar launched a $5 million class-action lawsuit that claimed Tidal had to compensate the band for any of the royalty payments accrued from the streaming of the band’s 116 copyrighted songs. The suit also accused Tidal of using faulty numbers to payout artists while also having undercut these same individuals by 35%. A response from Tidal stated that they were indeed fully up to date on all royalties for the group and had removed said intellectual property from their servers.

      Hollywood accounting and pirate profiteering undercut what artists would normally be paid.

      You can influence things with your wallet.

      You can influence how you feel about your consumer habits, but capitalists are still going to capitalize.

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        I just switched to Tidal, any recent issues?

        Not loving the delay in Android Auto but the quality difference is truly night and day.

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        There were apps out there to help with this when I switched from Spotify to Tidal. I can’t remember the name anymore though. It just sucks up all your saved songs and playlists, matches them in the other service then adds them. Almost everything I had moved over without a problem. I do miss the social aspect of Spotify, being able to share links with friends. No one I know has tidal except the people on my family plan. There are services that will turn your song link into a linktree like page with links for Spotify, tidal, YouTube music, deezer, etc., but that’s clunky.

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      AOL profited for over a decade on people who signed up for the service and simply lost track of it, paying month after month for something they’d forgotten they even had.

      Crazy that these services can just raise premiums whenever they please without even reaffirming that the customer still wants the service. I guarantee that if you needed to re-verify your account on a price increase, firms with big client pools would never raise their rates again.

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        And now when you card expires, they just change the expiration date on your existing number a few times until it works to keep the subscription going, and that’s somehow legal.

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          Does the CVV number on credit cards not change when they’re renewed in the USA? Or can companies still somehow charge cards without an up-to-date CVV?

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    So what is their excuses for older musicians that paid for expensive studio time before the day of home studios? Cause they still pay them like shit too

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    The only reason I keep Spotify anymore is that I’ve got a family plan with something like six accounts. I gave those to random acquaintances back in the Facebook days - people who are really into music.

    If I cancel Spotify, there are five people out there who are suddenly and without warning going to find themselves without music.

    I really don’t even remember who they are, but I feel like continuing the subscription is my community service

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      Pretty sure you can see their email address. This should give you the opportunity to message them stating you’ll be canceling the subscription. They’ll still be able to subscribe on their own.

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    For anyone out there, I recommend giving Tidal a shot and for podcasts, I recommend a FOSS app called AntennaPod. This is the combo I use myself, I’ve been using Tidal for a bit over two years now and just recently switched to AntennaPod.

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    I’m so grateful, I have thousands of songs and just hit shuffle and made my own playlists. I always thought internet radio was overpriced 😅

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      What are some alternatives? I’ve heard Tidal is one of the better ones. I’m not necessarily opposed to piracy/ripping my CD collection + self-hosted streaming, but if I can pay someone else for the convenience I’d rather do that.

      Do any services have a comparable family plan too?