Not my original content, but something I stand by
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Kira isn’t Starfleet, so that means she just grabbed Jadzia’s phaser and pointed it at someone!
Kira doesn’t care about regulations
Why does the Major have a lesbian flag?
I’m straight, can I wear a pride flag?
Absolutely! The basic rainbow is good to show support regardless of orientation. You could do specific one(s) if you have people that identify as that, it just might require additional explanation.
Because that’s what the artist decided to draw. Maybe Kira has it for someone she knows who identifies as a lesbian. Maybe she was just getting into the spirit of things and grabbed the first flag she saw.
Obviously in canon Kira only expresses interest in dudes with the personalities of dry toast, but mirror Kira is a bit more open. It’s not entirely clear if sexual orientation is 1:1 across universes, so who’s to say if prime Kira experiences same sex attraction or not?
Serious observation, Prime Sulu is straight and Kelvin Sulu is gay (there was a whole brou ha ha about that with George Takei when Beyond came out). So there is a possibility of orientation deviation (heh) between timelines if they stray far enough from each other.
In the case of the Mirror Universe, I think it’s strictly a “same exact people but in different situations” thing. Even while it was still on the air, I assumed Prime Kira was closeted and that was part of why none of her relationships worked out.
Prime Sulu is straight and Kelvin Sulu is gay
Do we know that prime Sulu is straight? He flirts with a woman in “The Way to Eden” and when the literal devil from Christen mythology is aboard the Enterprise in “The Magiks of Megas-Tu” Sulu is able to conjure a woman using the magical properties.
Mirror Sulu clearly is interested in Uhura, despite her rebuffs.
And we do see Kelvin Sulu ever so briefly with his husband and child in “Beyond”, causing an uproar well out of proportion to how little the movie choose to show.
However, all those characters might be bisexual. We do exist.
Even while it was still on the air, I assumed Prime Kira was closeted and that was part of why none of her relationships worked out.
People have relationships that don’t work out without being queer.
But yeah, prime Kira is a religious conservative who is grossed out by how libertine Dax is – dating Ferengi, and dudes with transparent skulls – and while we’re never told how Bajorans view queer relationships, I do view mirror Kira’s more unrestrained nature as indication that her prime counterpart is holding back a part of herself.
Yes, it was about being gay or straight. Kelvin Sulu was given a husband in honor of George Takei… an honor he rebuked because he felt they only changed the character for cheap representation points. He insisted that even though he is gay, the Sulu he portrayed is straight. (In Generations, Sulu is married and has a daughter, Demora, who helmed the Enterprise-B.)
Personally, I feel like since John Cho’s Sulu is a different person in a different universe (and Cho himself is cool being a straight Korean playing a gay Japanese) Takei didn’t need to get so angry about it.
We do exist.
Please don’t assume that I thought otherwise just because I didn’t explicitly mention every potentiality in that one post.
He insisted that even though he is gay, the Sulu he portrayed is straight.
“Unfortunately, it’s a twisting of Gene’s creation, to which he put in so much thought. I think it’s really unfortunate.”
Takei was not into it, but I do feel like he was overselling just how much thought Roddenberry put into the side characters in Trek. Sulu didn’t even get a given name until “The Voyage Home”, a film Roddenberry had nothing to do with.
(In Generations, Sulu is married and has a daughter, Demora, who helmed the Enterprise-B.)
Demora is Sulu’s daughter, but there’s no mention that Sulu was married, or if he was that it was to a woman.
(and Cho himself is cool being a straight Korean playing a gay Japanese)
Funny you mention the character’s nationality, considering that Roddenberry envisioned Sulu as some pan-Asian character on indeterminate nationality. Sulu is not a Japanese name, and Roddenberry chose to name the character after the Sulu sea of the coast of the Philippians.
Please don’t assume that I thought otherwise just because I didn’t explicitly mention every potentiality in that one post.
That was not my assumption. I just can’t think of any reason to assume that Sulu is not bi or pan, given what we know about the various iterations of the character.
What’s with these “no cops at Pride” comics?
police have a long and vibrant history of violent abuse of those who identify as LGBT+
Shouldn’t we be working against that, though? Isn’t that the whole point of Pride… AND TREK?
neither the point of pride, nor the point of Trek, has anything to do with including your oppressors/keeping your enemies closer. Unless you think Cardassians were the point?
Cardassians like Tekeny Ghemor and Aamin Marritza are right in line with the point of Trek.
* woosh *
Don’t be a jerk.
Don’t invite wolves to the paddock.
LGBT+ people have learned not to trust the police, and so will have a hard time relaxing and enjoying themselves if they are around.
Cops have motive, means and opportunity to abuse minorities they don’t “approve” of. Therefore (and because of previous form) they have made themselves unwelcome.
The Stonewall riots is a good place to start your history studies on the matter.
Thanks for your completely sincere suggestion, which I’m sure was made in a good faith effort to have a mature and intelligent discussion on this topic, but I’m actually very well versed in LGBT+ history already.
Oh, so you’re just trolling then, because I was answering honestly and you were asking in bad faith to be a troll.
It’s Pride Month.
But that’s not the part I’m asking about.
Then be specific.
Don’t be obtuse.
I’m genuinely not. Say what you mean, champ.
I’m obviously asking why no cops. I don’t believe you didn’t understand that. But clearly, you’re not willing to discuss it, so I’ll withdraw the question.
Cops are generally shitty people who don’t belong in any places where citizens express themselves.
Ah, well that question has been answered by others and myself elsewhere in this thread. Sorry for assuming that you might have checked to see if your question was already answered before asking it.
But hey, just for you, I’ll repost what I’ve already said:
Because the police enforce the laws of the state, often with violence. If the law dictates that a person being open about their identity is illegal regardless of the fact their identity harms no one, and everyone involved in their actions consents, than it is the responsibility of the cops to oppress them. One year the cops might march alongside people at pride, and then the laws might change and they’ll be there to bust heads of anyone who shows up the next year.
And yeah, there no doubt exist LGBTQ+ cops, or cops whose friends and/or family whom they love are LGBTQ+, but so long as they wear the uniform they represent an organization used to oppress marginalized and minority communities.
Fundamentally, pride is not just a party, it is a protest.
