• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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      7 months ago

      They’ve been pulling this shit since the early days. Similar tricks were employed in the 486 days to swap out chips, and again in the Celeron days. I think they switched to the slot style intentionally to keep selling chips to a point lol

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            7 months ago

            We have open source designs (RISCV also have GPU designs) but we don’t have manufacture power open sourced yet

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              7 months ago

              i dream of a world where the process will cheapen out enough like pcb design, where you can just submit the design you want and they will fab it out for you.

              with more players coming into the game because of sanctions, i hope we are now on the path.

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                Yes, i hope so too, as for now, semiconductor lithography at home is impossible due how big and complex these machines are, so i have same opinion as you are

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        IIRC, the slot CPU thing was because they wanted to get the cache closer to the processor, but hadn’t integrated it on-die yet. AMD did the same thing with the original Athlon.

        On a related note, Intel’s anticompetitive and anti- consumer tactics are why I’ve been buying AMD since the K6-2.

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          They had integrated the L2 on-die before that already with the Pentium Pro on Socket 8. IIRC the problem was the yields were exceptionally low on those Pentium Pros and it was specifically the cache failing. So every chip that had bad cache they had to discard or bin it as a lower spec part. The slot and SECC form factor allowed them to use separate silicon on a larger node by having the cache still be on-package (the SECC board) instead of on-die.

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        7 months ago

        It’s been at least since the “big iron” days.

        Technician comes out to upgrade your mainframe and it consists of installing a jumper to enable the extra features. For only a few million dollars.

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    7 months ago

    Turns out, the difference in the socket is just a few pins here and there, and you can make a 8th or 9th generation Coffee Lake CPU work on your Z170/270 board if you apply a few Kapton tape fixes and mod your BIOS,

    Modders giving me a new reason to keep my ye olde z170 mobo instead of just making a new machine with all the nice hardware

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          It’s been their MO for a long time to keep using the same chipset for as long as possible, if they stop then stop giving either money and just don’t upgrade, not that it really matters with the diminishing return each generation.

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          7 months ago

          It’s really unfortunate they kinda screwed over threadripper customers so bad in this way, but they’re still the lesser evil by a country mile.

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    7 months ago

    That’s cool, but is there a subset of features or cpu bound operations or something that makes it worth going through the trouble just to run a faster(?) cpu with slower memory?

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    7 months ago

    For some reason I don’t think I even knew Intel made motherboards.

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      They don’t, but they define the socket the processor slots into and probably did this to market the newer chips as more advanced than they are (by bundling a minor chip upgrade with an additional chipset upgrade that may have more uplift).

      I see no other reason to kneecap upgrades like this when upgrading entails the consumer buying more of your product.