Tack “&udm=14” on to the end of a normal search, and you’ll be booted into the clean 10 blue links interface. While Google might not let you set this as a default, if you have a way to automatically edit the Google search URL, you can create your own defaults.
It’s easier to just use duckduckgo
With the Microsoft AI.
DDG only uses the web indexing from bing. There’s no AI on DDG, and the search result is created by themselves, without MS tracking or fingerprinting.
DDG has an experimental wikipedia “AI” that pops up near wikipedia results, but theres a button you have to click manually to generate the summary AFAIK
The operator for ensuring something appeared in a search used to be “+”, but they stopped using that for some ???mYsTeRiOuS rEaSoN???
There’s no AI on DDG
Uh… The settings for AI Chat and DuckAssist are both on by default when you use DuckDuckGo. You can see them in Settings -> AI Features
But even activated, results don’t default to an AI chat, that’s a different beta page you have to go through intentionally. I’ve never noticed the Assist because I’m not in an English speaking region and it is not available at all for me. But the point stays, they don’t use Microsoft’s AI. They use GPT-3 and Claude.
So far this actually seems like a good, privacy respecting implementation of a chatbot. Good for those who don’t want to go the full offline selfhosted route IMO
It’s a shame that they’ll certainly prioritize nerfing this over fixing actual problems
“kill ai search for good”
Yeah, ok. It’s a feature and Google will kill it eventually.
I never get these things where people are like “ah ha, we outsmarted the company by using an undocumented* feature they provide!” But like, they control the feature and they know it exists, you’re not getting away with something.
* or sometimes even documented
I tricked target into lowering prices by using this coupon they had on their website! Mwhahaha.
Google will just use this as a way to flag their tech savvy and anti-ai users. It’s just another data point.
Show google who’s boss by still using the product.
This won’t last long. It’s too public now. Google will find a way to kill it and force their AI on you as much as possible.
lol it’s just what happens when you click More -> Web which is something they just introduced like a week or two ago. I’m all for hating on tech giants, but comments like this go beyond cynicism/jadedness and go right to conspiracyville.
Too bad even without it, Google search has gone to shit.
DuckDuckGo is the future
Duckduckgo suffers a lot of the same problems as google and other search engines. It’s just not getting progressively worse as fast as google. It’s still been getting worse and worse as time has gone on. I really dislike people who just point to another search engine like it’s the end all be all and don’t or won’t acknowledge that each one has problems and a lot of the problems overlap significantly. None of that fixes the problem or makes any of these companies backtrack on their terrible implementation of anti-user/anti-consumer policies.
Duckduckgo suffers a lot of the same problems as google
Like what?
I really dislike people who just point to another search engine like it’s the end all be all
There are other alternatives as well.
Things like irrelevant results, inaccurate or outdated information, missing or completely incorrect information, or just information that doesn’t contextualize the queries properly. For a start. Do you think search engine optimisation is just a google thing or what? Because I have news for you. Seo is a problem for all of the search engines. So are irrelevant results, failure to contextualize queries, and just receiving incorrect or missing information. None of those problems get fixed by switching to duck duck go, or bing or kagi or whatever. Can I avoid the AI LLM BS? Maybe. But having tried alternatives I just don’t find them to be particularly better. In some cases, especially for my work I find them to be worse.
Stop saying “alternatives are available”. If I search for an AP article using search terms “apnews.com: senator visits Taiwan” I should get news articles from the AP news website. Even if those are from 2014. That’s contextually accurate to the search query. I get articles from a fair number of websites and news outlets. I don’t want those. Know what I don’t get? Articles in chronological order from when they were written, from the AP news website. I don’t want anything from twitter or Facebook or Reddit. That’s me trying to use a search engine to search a specific website. Same thing happens when I search for a gif on imgur.com using imgur.com: “search query” in the search box.
Years ago I tried to use google and duck duck go and Bing to find information about some nonsense someone at work was spouting about congress attempting to pass a pro child molester bill. Not only could I not find anything relating to where this was being reported and what nonsense they were bastardizing to come to such a ridiculous conclusion, I couldn’t even find actual bills relating to things like anti-child molestation legislation. I had to actually search the congress website and then use key words on the website to find what I was looking for.
Try looking for a sort of popular anime from the early 90’s that you can’t remember the name of. You get a bunch of top ten lists. You get anime that came out well after the time period specified. You get random fanart. You will absolutely not get the anime you’re looking for unless it was really really popular. The alternatives all give varying degrees of the same results.
wait, is the AI thing automatically enabled in the US?
Must be logged in, in my experience.
Saw it appear on a first search from a logged in US Google account, then disappeared on a second search* - but allowed itself to be re-enabled from Labs.
*granted, I was testing the pizza glue search
Crazy. Normally it’s annoying that tech companies limit some features to US only, this time I’m all for it.
I can’t help but be curious, does udm=13 or udm=15 do anything?
Don’t try it! You’ll regret it.
“For good.”
Until Google finds a workaround.
If this is anything like the flag to bring back the old Chrome downloads bar (I miss you), then enjoy it while you can.
Truthfully, the way I cut out most of the noise everywhere is to search using duckduckgo lite on Librewolf/Mull browsers. That with ublock origin (and block cookie banners), noscript, and redirection extensions to nojs alternatives like libreddit, scribe, invidious, along with putting various bypass paywall scripts into ublock’s filter list. It all just adds up to an overall better experience with fast, to the point results.
It works. In Vivaldi just add the parameter at the end of the search URL in the search settings configuration.
if you have a way to automatically edit the Google search URL, you can create your own defaults.
Firefox let’s you add arbitrary search URLs to its list of search engines.
People sill use Google search?
Yes.
This is like coming into a thread about Windows and doing the i uSe aRcH bY thE wAy thing
I don’t use Google but your comment is childish
It’s perfectly fine to be surprised that people use things. Facebook is still here, I’m surprised. Heck, until the news that ICQ was shutting down, I thought it had been dead for decades.
What’s really tiresome is comments like yours
If you’re surprised that people still use Google to search then I hope you don’t get a job as a statistician 😂
I think people will use whatever is the default set in their browser.
That said, I do all my searching through “AI” that can search for me, sort through 50 pages, and give me the relevant links. Works every time.
Are you like, about 14?
Are you like, about 70?
Probably the same people who still happily use Facebook and buy a $1500 laptop so they “run” huge programs like ancestry.com and Gmail.
