The End of Airbnb in New York::Thousands of Airbnbs and other short-term rentals are expected to disappear from rental platforms as New York City begins enforcing tight restrictions.
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A blessing, really, for cities experiencing housing shortage.
Have you considered building more housing?
True! Getting rid of these AirBnBs probably doesn’t hurt things though. Now they might actually get a long-term resident.
It probably doesn’t but you have to wonder why that company was so successful to begin with. I feel like we are celebrating a weight loss company getting banned.
There is a housing shortage, there is a hotel room shortage. Someone took advantage of that. Getting rid of that someone doesn’t stop the next person.
I was successful because it’s skirting (pretty blatantly breaking actually) rental laws and thus gains an advantage over the competition.
Well I think it was successful for the same reason so many unicorn startups are. They were bankrolled by promising angel investors marketshare so they were able to run artificially brutally low prices to dry out the rest of the market for years. But now investors are asking for those profits back and we’re here dealing with horrible Airbnb prices AND it made the housing crisis worse. Double whammy, bb!!
A bummer though for anyone visiting as hotels become the only option, and prices go way up, beholden to moneyed corporate interests who lobby politicians in their favor and pockets.
Ed: just wow on the downvote brigading. Upvote/downvote is supposed to reflect whether or not the comment contributes to the conversation. Not killing the messenger when it’s some info someone doesn’t want to hear.
This is just very standard macroeconomics supply and demand, plus regular institutionalized political corruption.
Yes, Abnb sucks shit, and their prices are stoopid high, but that’s the free market.
Ban them and watch hotel prices go up. Simple as that.
AirBnB is just as corporate and lobbyist bullshit as any other company. Arguably worse, in that AirBNB breaks the laws and then tries to get laws changed.
Hotel chains at least try to lobby to change the laws before breaking the rules.
In my experience over the last two years hotels are either same price OR less expensive due to AirBnBs bait and switch pricing. The taxes, cleaning fees, and random add ons are absurd.
In a recent example, staying at some Yurt for three days was $248. After taxes and fees it was around $515. Like wtf?!
I’m at the point where even if the pricing was flat, a hotel is 10X less hassle to deal with than AirBnB.
Gotta wonder if the competition from airbnb kept hotel prices lower. I do agree with you though.
hotels are either same price OR less expensive
I don’t think that really contradicts what they said though. It doesn’t matter which is more expensive, they both exist within the same market and removing supply will make what remains more expensive.
Then the change is working as intended - residential buildings should never have been pulled from the rental market to compete with hotels.
Kinda related I stopped renting cars many years ago because of this stuff. The price says X amount of dollars a day, the bill says 2X.
Rent via Costco. Somehow the prices your quoted is what you pay when you show up.
The last few times I’ve tried to book an AirBnB the price difference from a standard hotel room was almost nothing. AirBnB has been trash for awhile.
I find AirBnB to be cheaper when renting an entire house vs 3 or 4 hotel rooms. But an apartment vs a hotel room is even or the hotel is cheaper
I agree. Family of 5 many hotels require us get 2 rooms. Plus no option to cook meals makes for a much more expensive stay usually. At least until a few years ago when airbnb went insane with the cleaning fees plus cleaning requirements and all that nonsense.
I think it’s been too long since you’ve looked at Airbnb. Prices are no longer a deal in contrast to hotels. It’s all inflated trash and no longer accessible for regular people.
Not only that, but you get charged cleaning fees, but you need to clean the fucking place after. AirBnB is a scam pure and simple
Airbnb prices are approaching that of hotel rooms. You typically get a kitchen at an Airbnb, but the price argument doesn’t seem accurate from the listings I’ve looked at.
People downvoting either aren’t old enough to remember how bad hotels were, or are wearing rose colored glasses.
When airbnbs came to my city, after a few years, hotels finally lowered prices and made a effort to give a shit. I hope it doesn’t fall back to that.
But then again, the past few years, Airbnb rentals seem to be run by shady companies instead of by homeowners with an extra room.
Airbnb has basically become “hotel prices, but the cost is hidden behind cleaning fees”. Also, hotels basically stopped giving a shit after the pandemic. No loss here.
Good? Homes should be homes, not holiday lets for tourists.
Smart. People can still rent out an extra room, but can’t squat on an apartment solely for Airbnb.
That’s how airbnbs were when I’ve used them in the past, things like a place where you can sleep on someone’s couch, or a house with a spare room you can crash in. Those kinds of arrangements were way cheaper than hotels and very appealing.
Good. That was kinda the whole fucking point of Airbnb in the first place. If you want to own property for the sole purpose of short term rentals buy a hotel.
Yep. Just like Uber it morphed, from people sharing a ride or their place while on vacation, into full time drivers and landlords. Not the philosophical intebt of the original service, and it ruined it for everyone.
I mean Uber started as a black car service and wanted it to be possible for drivers to do it full time if they wanted. Neither Uber nor Lyft were ever billed as “make some money sharing a ride to where you are already driving”, the platform doesn’t even account/allow for that.
I fully agree on Airbnb but I don’t think the Uber example works.
I looked it up and you’re correct. I didn’t realize Uber started literally as “UberCab” and later dropped the “cab” and added the personal car ride sharing component. Thx for the tip!
I hope that these type of easily exploitable services just absolutely die. New York is the last place I would have expected to hear these type of services turned scummy to start to disappear, but I welcome it and hope it spreads across the country.
Toronto desperately needs this.
TorontoEverywhere desperately needs this.
Downtown service businesses looking at empty offices due to WFH. “Well, at least people still come downtown for its hotels. Tourists still have lots of money to prop us up!” AirBnB gets banned, hotels start jacking up prices. “Well, #$%#.”
I think offices into hotels would solve both problems, right?
99% invisible just did an episode on skyscraper conversion. Its farily complicated.
Off topic but I always thought the airbnb logo looks like a dangling ballsack and their service fits well with that image, so I’m not the least bit surprised to see the company struggling.
Who is having trouble finding a hotel room in New York City? It’s expensive, but everything is expensive there.
ELI5: why is having airbnb’s a bad thing? ( not local, not in the loop )
It applies to anywhere. The problem isn’t one situation. It’s this same story, repeated thousands of times in every city across the globe.
Bobby wants to live in a house. Monthly rent prices are usually around $1,000 per month in his home town.
Joe wants to make money by renting out a house on AirBnb. Hotel prices are usually around $200 per night in the same location. If Joe rents out his house for just 10 nights a month, he can make $2,000. This easily covers Joe’s expenses and puts the extra cash in his bank account. If he rents it out for 25 nights, he’s putting away a lot of cash.
When houses are up for sale, Bobby can only spend a similar cost as his rent. Joe has been watching his bank account climb and is ready to spend a lot on another house to put on AirBnb. Joe can make a profit even if the house is double the price.
Bobby’s landlord sees housing prices rise. Decides to either (1) increase Bobby’s rent to $2,000 - which he can’t afford or (2) sell the house to someone like Joe for a major markup.
Bobby has to move in with roommates and will never be able to afford to buy a home when competing against all the Joes out there.
Got it, thanks!
translation, Hotels are losing to much business there
Translation: there’s a fucking housing crisis and people are still living on the street but some rich fucking trust fund prick can come in and buy up all the real estate and fuck all the other working class over.
Hotels at the very least are intended for mass population and are space conscious. Airbnb is a plague that is destroying our ability to own affordable homes because, yet again, the rich use their abundant, gluttonous power to fuck over anyone who isn’t giving them their money.
If only we could build more houses
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