Oh no! Anyway…
It’s going to be to their advantage to claim that they’re shutting down, even if they actually want that $50B buyout. If they say they’re going to sell, they’re going to lose what little leverage they have left. The public that wants TikTok will get TikTok, and the public is going to stop pestering politicians about it.
When you’re forced to participate in capitalism, your only option is to play the game. I agree, this is mostly just a bluff.
Why though? Why would they give up their trade secrets? They have a global market.
They could sell the user accounts and content and let another company clip that into their own recommendation algo.
I’ve been a part of a few tech acquisitions that have worked this way. They keep their secret sauce but hand over the community.
The question is if anyone would buy it without the algorithm and the other stuff worth money. Users by themselves aren’t very useful if everyone leaves after a day.
It would come down to price. I’m sure someone would pay for the content, accounts, and brand. But what dollar amount are we talking about when the algo isn’t on the table.
The algorithm either isn’t as valuable as they believe or the government’s concern is legitimate and we have a real problem.
Yeah that’s certainly possible. I just don’t think it will go the way people are thinking.
Makes sense from a business point of view. Why sell to create a new competitor with the same technology and an impregnable market base in the USA?
Better to force US competition to start from scratch.
YouTube/IG are hardly starting from scratch.
But they don’t have the international reach of TikTok.
For money. Whoever buys it has to pay you for it. Shutting down just means leaving a gaping hole in American social media that some other company will fill and you’ll be in the same position but with less money.
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Do it.
EU next please
Don’t use it if you don’t like it, but don’t give this bullshit Ministry of Public Enlightenment and Propaganda control of something just because you don’t like it.
It’s just as bad or good as any other algorithm based content app like Facebook or Instagram. If we have a problem with privacy for example then go after that like with gdpr.
Good. Please proceed as quickly as possible.
I’m curious, is there an actual plan to ban TikTok? How do they think they can accomplish that? And just how easy will it be to circumvent the ban?
Having read through the bill, here’s how it works:
- TikTok/ByteDance is mentioned specifically in the bill, so they have 270 days (iirc) to divest of “adversary country” influence (meaning China, Iran, Russia, N. Korea), meaning they’d have to be sold to a company based in a non-adversary country
- assuming they don’t comply with 1, any app store
or ISP*hosting provider* would be fined if they continue to preserve access to the app - users can still use the app, but they have have network access blocked while in the US - so you’d have to use a VPN to use the app
So to circumvent it, basically use a VPN to use the app, and for updates, you’d probably need to side-load on Android or something similar. I don’t know how Apple’s store works well enough to know what options users have to install and update the app after the ban.
That said, there is no provision for making it illegal to use the app, the onus is entirely on companies facilitating access to the app.
Edit: I was wrong about the ISP. After a reread, it’s talking about server hosting. So a server cannot be hosted in the US, nor can a server in the US distribute copies of the app, or host source code for the app.
Don’t threaten us with a good time!
Good, that’ll decrease the amount of stupidity in the platform for the international audiences to enjoy
Extremely hostile business takeover by the government.
Don’t worry, It’s OK when the US does it.
U.S. wouldn’t be taking over… it could be a New Zealand company for all the u.s. cares.
They’d rather shut it down cause they dont want to sell it and let an American company see how they use and abuse it to gather information and manipulate behaviors.
Maybe they are willing to sell and are just saying this to drive up the price.
Or maybe they don’t want a competitor to have access to their secret algorithm, and threaten them globally. This way they lose only one market.
Another possibility is that they will teach users how to use a VPN, and are confident that enough of their users will do it.
Or maybe they think saying they’re willing to shut down will make some of their users lobby against this bill / organise protests / call their representatives. (This probably won’t work.)
Companies are ultimately motivated by money. They will do whatever underhanded trick they can think up to get it.
They are free to sell to non American companies just fine as long as the new company is not ultimately controlled by the Chinese government.
LMAO, apt name. You do know that facebook, a known disinformation company, is american, right?
Yes, and they should be shut down too. though the difference is facebook is a private entity and tiktok is a tool owned and operated by the chinese government.
You’re point?
No, I’m not a point. Oh, you mean your point. Funny how you don’t know that, as an American.
Burn them all.
I don’t recall the previous commenter mentioning anything about Facebook. Making a comment that is anti something doesn’t automatically mean they’re pro something else.
Step 1: Feel like getting into a comment section argument
Step 2: Put words in the other guy’s mouth and argue against those
Step 3: Make yourself look like a bit of a tool
Is this the best use of your time?
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'Notha one Bytes the Dance
Reuters.com is blocking vpn now apparently
Bytedance announces to software developers: “Start your engines!”
Bye Felicia
