• thehatfox@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    149
    ·
    8 months ago

    With how aggressive Microsoft is becoming with ads, services, and data collection they could at least make Windows itself free.

    But no, you still have to pay £100+ per license to have the pleasure of putting up with this crap.

  • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    72
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    8 months ago

    As much as I like Linux, and use it almost exclusively on desktop/laptop, every time I see something like this I am reminded how much I hate the fact that Apple of all companies is about the last bastion of commercial and consumer operating systems who isn’t trying to derive the bulk of their revenue from advertising.

    • Phoenix3875@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      11
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      In some sense yes, but advertising for its own stuff is advertising too. It nudges you to use their whole ecosystem.

      The most annoying thing for me is that you can’t remove the iTunes component in mission control (the settings deck).

      • chakan2@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        8 months ago

        It does nudge you…but it’s not full screen ads that take multiple clicks to get through every week. I was a Windows zealot through W7…W10 got bad…W11 got me to start using Apple and Linux.

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    38
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    Another day, another piece of enshittification by MS, another reason to talk about our Lord and Saviour, Linus Torvalds, if you can spare a few minutes.

  • TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    29
    ·
    8 months ago

    I don’t see any enshitiffication features and ads in Windows 11 that Lemmy and tech news are reporting. I wonder if it’s because I’m in the EU.

  • jf0314@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    8 months ago

    I tried building a Steam box with the bootleg version of SteamOS from the deck… Can’t remember the name of the distro. Steam Games ran great for the most part, but getting Epic, EA and Ubisoft to work was a nightmare. If Linux can get that sorted, I’d never use Windows again.

    • jaemo@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      So, literally every game I’ve bought on steam is playable on my Manjaro box.

      Additionally, a recent KDE6 upgrade messed up my config and necessitated a full system reinstall. After remounting the partition where my steam games were installed on in the old sys, they…just worked. Even the ones that don’t cloud sync, saved games all there, DLC all there.

      I don’t know how long reinstalling ~1TB of games would take on windows… a lot? Pretty sure you have to fully reinstall them, not just “point steam to the drive where they live”

      Frankly I just don’t see why people tolerate windows anymore. It’s just laughably bad.

      • mint_tamas@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        8 months ago

        I used to keep my steam games on a separate windows 10 partition and it worked exactly as you describe after a reinstall, it was all there. It’s still incredibly cool that this works on Linux and we get to use it as daily driver without being forced to dual boot for games. A windows installation still lingers on my desktop but it’s been years since I booted into it.

      • Llewellyn@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        edit-2
        8 months ago

        If you have games in a separate partition, then you will have no need to reinstall it even in case with reinstalling Windows, though.

        You haven’t really highlighted any of the linux advantages here.

        • jaemo@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          8 months ago

          You haven’t really highlighted any of the linux advantages here.

          I wasn’t really on that side quest, I’m only asserting it’s (apparently) as easy as Windows is. If you don’t see “not having to use windows” as an advantage, or if it’s actually an impediment to your non-game-related computer use, that’s totally fair; subjectivity is absolutely part of this. I’m just glad it all works for me in my life and that I’m lucky enough to be able to get to work on the platform I prefer.

      • jf0314@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        Like I wrote, Steam games were generally good, other storefronts, not so much.

    • Secret300@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      8 months ago

      Yeah, it’s definitely better now then it was before believe it or not. I honestly just avoid them at all cost even on windows. I hate games that ship their own launcher even though I bought it on steam

    • Bulletdust@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      I run both the Epic Store as well as the EA App via Bottles, and I had both up and running in about ten minutes.

      You can also install both launchers under Steam via Proton. The process is a little more involved, but far from difficult.

  • psud@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    8 months ago

    Now that Linux can run pretty much all the games I play on the PC I don’t think I’m going to have much use for windows at home anymore

  • [email protected]@sh.itjust.works
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    22
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    In total, I expect this to cost about a minute or two of my life if they never remove the ads. This figure is fairly typical for daily windows users, of which ~400kk are on win11. Microsoft will steal ~1.5*400,000,000 minutes with these ads. Ads that nearly no one will even consider clicking. 600,000,000 minutes=10,000,000 hours=1140 years. Multiple lifetimes in aggregate, all to be thrown away for nothing. I’d like to send a very strongly worded knot tying tutorial to Satya Nadella and Brad Smith.

    • hubobes@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      12
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      Now figure out how much that is in lost revenue and write a headline like „Microsoft to lose economy one million gazzillion $“.

      • Kelly@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        8 months ago

        lost revenue

        You can be sure this is retail only.

        Enterprise Windows won’t have this feature and now appears to have added value for corporate customers.

    • psud@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      Lots of people will spend a few hours then several tens of minutes monthly or so finding out how and then disabling the ads after each update

  • feinstruktur@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    8 months ago

    Autodesk! All the others! Can you now, goddammit, for the sake of the mental health of your customers, start building your tools on platforms other than this crap? PLEASE? I mean I’m seriously considering building a parallel system running Linux for all my other office needs and just touch my Win-pc to run my CAD. I hope MS will continue in this way and ai-mercialize their OS more and more so hopefully the software providers will have enough at one point.

    • 31337@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      8 months ago

      I’ve used FreeCAD for hobby 3d printing and plywood CNC projects. It seemed buggy, and the workflow seemed strange, but I’ve never used anything else, so it’s fine, I guess, lol.

      • feinstruktur@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        8 months ago

        FreeCAD is of course the tool of choice for my hobby projects. All of our workgroup’s students get an introduction. But while its a great tool, you’ll notice the lack of … management (?) in the background. I’m not bashing or even judging. I very much appreciate all the work put into it. But it’s simply … not there yet to be considered a serious alternative to one of the big players.

    • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      9
      ·
      edit-2
      8 months ago

      At that point you might as well just use a windows VM for CAD. With desktop integration you hardly have to notice you’re using windows.

      • feinstruktur@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        8 months ago

        I’ve certainly considered that, but have a hard time imagining a comparable performance with large assemblies. Any hands-on experiences?

        • trxxruraxvr@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          8 months ago

          I have used a windows vm at a previous job for a closed source IDE we were required to use. I’ve never used AutoCAD, so I’m afraid I can’t help you there.

    • Squeak@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      6
      ·
      8 months ago

      As much as everyone pushes Linux, it’s not a suitable replacement in a lot of scenarios

      • Dagamant@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        11
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        8 months ago

        But it is a suitable replacement in a lot of scenarios. Most scenarios. The only time it isn’t is in niche specialty situations.

        • Hucklebee@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          8 months ago

          The problem is mostly that those niches count up, so that quite a lot of people fit in one of those niches.

          I happen to fit in 3 niches at the same time: VR, Music and Professional design.

          VR? No linux. Music production? Depending on your VSTs, No linux. Playing Music live? Depending on VSTs, No linux. Professional design? No Linux.

          I currently actively trying to switch to Linux, despite its apparant shortcomings in above applications. It’s quite the challenge. Wine seems to install quite some stuff, but from what I’ve read it’s a crabshoot if stuff breaks after every update…

        • Squeak@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          7
          arrow-down
          5
          ·
          8 months ago

          Not really. Adobe creative cloud is used my almost all graphic/media professionals, yet doesn’t work on Linux… that’s not very niche

          • bamboo@lemm.ee
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            3
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            8 months ago

            And fwiw, most computer users still aren’t Adobe CC users.

            • Hucklebee@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              3
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              edit-2
              8 months ago

              Although it’s a bloated mess, it’s the standard for a reason. Affinity is starting to catch up, but the complete Adobe suite has no real competition.

    • Matriks404@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      8 months ago

      Is there something like PowerToys Run for KDE? That’s one of the utilities I would miss the most when switching to Linux.

      • gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        8 months ago

        Yeah, KRunner, and it’s been around longer than Powertoys.

        I never really used it on Windows so I don’t know if it has all the same features, but there’s probably some way to make whatever you need from it work.

        The whole point of PowerToys was essentially to implement the features Windows was missing that the Linux DEs had already.

  • Matriks404@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    14
    arrow-down
    3
    ·
    edit-2
    8 months ago

    Jesus Fucking Christ. They really want people to switch to Linux, don’t they?

    Microsoft should stop trying to become another Apple. This is not going to work.