Have clearly never owned a Hyundai. My mom had a cheapo Hyundai Accent that she drove until it hit 300k miles. She only upgraded because she got tired of manual transmission, hand crank windows, and no power locks.
It’s not even just cheapo stuff anymore. They’ve really stepped up their game in the last several years, with ICE and a good range of EVs. I know a few people that have Hyundai EVs, and they all love them.
Their Genesis badge is also legit luxury. I would say they might be the best value in luxury cars right now because they can’t yet command the price the more established brands can.
These aren’t the shitty tin cans from when I was younger. If you’re looking for a new car don’t dismiss KIA/Hyundai/Genesis without checking them out.
Okay how about Consumer Reports (an independent member-funded nonprofit), who put Kia/Hyundai at 10/11, admittedly showing Genesis much lower in the pack (18). Kia/Hyundai still beat out every American manufacturer on the list (not that its an overwhelmingly high bar).
They’re definitely not perfect, but more middle of the road than older stigmas might have people believe.
Yeah, to call them shitty is disingenuous. They’re a solid brand at an affordable price which makes them pretty darn good for most Americans. And they still refused to actually point to any actual data about them being a bad brand. Just said JD Power is bad.
Agreed, and I’ll add, as an EV owner, none of the brands above them have anything resembling a respectable EV lineup, except maybe BMW, but that’s being generous. Toyota, Honda, and their subsidiaries make great cars, but they’ve dragged their feet more than anyone on the EV market.
As far as I’m concerned, if you’re looking at this from an EV buyer’s perspective, KIA/Hyundai top the list (which is reflected in CR’s EV ratings, giving them the top spot for the last few years)
Have clearly never owned a Hyundai. My mom had a cheapo Hyundai Accent that she drove until it hit 300k miles. She only upgraded because she got tired of manual transmission, hand crank windows, and no power locks.
It’s not even just cheapo stuff anymore. They’ve really stepped up their game in the last several years, with ICE and a good range of EVs. I know a few people that have Hyundai EVs, and they all love them.
Their Genesis badge is also legit luxury. I would say they might be the best value in luxury cars right now because they can’t yet command the price the more established brands can.
These aren’t the shitty tin cans from when I was younger. If you’re looking for a new car don’t dismiss KIA/Hyundai/Genesis without checking them out.
One instance, a rule doesn’t make.
Okay. Well looking at brand reliability numbers from JD Power, they’re 8th. (Genesis which is their premium line is 2nd).
https://www.jdpower.com/business/press-releases/2023-us-vehicle-dependability-studyvds
Where’s your data to back up your meaningless claims?
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https://www.consumerreports.org/cars/car-reliability-owner-satisfaction/who-makes-the-most-reliable-cars-a7824554938/
Okay how about Consumer Reports (an independent member-funded nonprofit), who put Kia/Hyundai at 10/11, admittedly showing Genesis much lower in the pack (18). Kia/Hyundai still beat out every American manufacturer on the list (not that its an overwhelmingly high bar).
They’re definitely not perfect, but more middle of the road than older stigmas might have people believe.
Yeah, to call them shitty is disingenuous. They’re a solid brand at an affordable price which makes them pretty darn good for most Americans. And they still refused to actually point to any actual data about them being a bad brand. Just said JD Power is bad.
Agreed, and I’ll add, as an EV owner, none of the brands above them have anything resembling a respectable EV lineup, except maybe BMW, but that’s being generous. Toyota, Honda, and their subsidiaries make great cars, but they’ve dragged their feet more than anyone on the EV market.
As far as I’m concerned, if you’re looking at this from an EV buyer’s perspective, KIA/Hyundai top the list (which is reflected in CR’s EV ratings, giving them the top spot for the last few years)
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