• alvvayson@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      The US allegedly spent a billion dollars intercepting these missiles.

      Meanwhile, Ukraine is all out of air defense and only Germany seems to be sending an extra patriot on the short-term.

      As a European, I think the wakeup call is to start taking European security more seriously, since the USA seems to have other priorities.

      • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Well, let’s see the results from the US House this week. Chances are that Ukraine aid will pass.

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      8 months ago

      Seriously. The wake up call is that our friends might do something really dumb and rope us into some absolute BS. Who needs enemies

      • cyd@lemmy.world
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        Shouldn’t be assassinating people in other countries, whether it’s a consulate or embassy…

        • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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          It was the building next door. Diplomatic law is practiced by the ICC. If Iran has a problem with it, that’s where they go. But they won’t because it was the building next door and not the embassy

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            8 months ago

            It was a consulate which is also covered by the Geneva convention as all diplomatic missions are. There really isn’t a significant distinction here.

        • Rapidcreek@lemmy.world
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          Iran has killed a lot of Americans. They are not your friend, brother. They’re not even friends with the people of Iran.

  • Linkerbaan@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    I support Ukraine defending itself because it is being invaded. But sucking up to Genocidal Nazis really isn’t the play.

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    “Ukraine condemns Iran’s attack on Israel using ‘Shahed’ drones and missiles,” Zelenskyy wrote on X, drawing a parallel between Tehran’s tactics and those employed by Moscow against Ukraine.

    Did he also condemn when Israel attacked Iran’s embassy? (Genuine question). Because if not that’s kind of… hypocrite.

    But I get it where he’s coming from. Anything to get on the good side of US to get enough support, to be able to keep fighting against Russia.

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      8 months ago

      Ukraine doesn’t have the luxury of taking a moral stance right now - your last paragraph is key, to ensure the survival of their nation Zelensky would pay any lip service because it’s far less important than stopping the bleeding.

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        Why does he have to take a stance at all? Just shut up about Israel and fight your war.

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          I’m guessing the situation being as dire as it is, as reported lately, they are desperate to use any bit of rhetoric or leverage they can. Being silent doesn’t really help securing the support they so acutely need. Maybe this doesn’t either, but at least they remain in the news cycles around the globe, which helps still.

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        The Global South will hardly believe these guys are honest and deserving of help when they hear this kind of two-standards talk that judges quite differently Israel from the rest.

        The Global South matters to Ukraine because of things like sanctions on Russia and not sending Russia the stuff they need to make more weapons.

        Zelensky just lost a really good chance at saying nothing at all and staying clean on this instead of wading into the shit and getting covered in it.

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      Since no embassy was attacked it would be hard to condemn it.

      A consulate was attacked and no, I have not seen him condemn it. I doubt he will since Iranian weapons and killing Ukrainians.

      The real issue is manufacturing those weapons. We have limited capacity to build what he needs and honestly that’s embarrassing as a super power.

  • bigkahuna1986@lemmy.ml
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    Let’s be clear, in the US we’re getting a lot of wake up calls. Sometimes multiple per day, but about half the country is perfectly happy hitting the snooze on those.

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    I’m really starting to think that Ukraine could lose while the US is stuck in its political treacle and Europe won’t have time (if we suppose we have the will) to restart a semi-war production.

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    Yeah, and Israel’s attack on Iran? Oh wait, i just remembered what religion you are. I know it seems rough that the USA loves Israel more than Ukraine, but at least if they keep backing Israel, you’ll have somewhere to hide in 3 years.