Transgender Catholics — as well as a priest who welcomes them to his parish — expressed disappointment Monday with a new Vatican document rejecting the fundamental concept of changing one’s biological sex.

In essence, it was a restatement of longstanding Catholic teaching, but the dismay was heightened because recent moves by Pope Francis had encouraged some trans Catholics to hope the church might become more accepting.

The pope has welcomed a community of transgender women to his weekly general audiences. And last year, the Vatican said it’s permissible, under certain circumstances, for trans people to be baptized as Catholics and serve as godparents.

“A document like this is very hurtful to the larger LGBTQ+ community but especially to the trans community,” said Maxwell Kuzma, 32, a lifelong Catholic transgender man working as a film editor and writer in rural Ohio.

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    The Vatican document was compiled by a committee of celibate feudal lords wearing archaic robes and signed and endorsed by their celibate king, wearing his silly hat in his magnificent palace, and declaring it all to be the direct word of their god.

    I don’t think they understand anyone’s lives.

    Have you seen who guards the Pope? These are not people who live in the real world.

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      Ah yeah, the trans community. Totally didn’t already know they were generally not accepted by Abrahamic religions. Weren’t just given a tiny glimmer of hope to desperately hang on to that they might be accepted. Also are Catholic because Catholicism hurts the right people.

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      To be fair (🎵to be faiiiiiiiiiirr . . ) Jesus never said anything about trans people, and the Talmud (which Jesus was ostensibly a big fan of) has eight - count 'em eight - specific genders already specified and ready to go.

      So really it’s the Catholic Church who’s not understanding - very possibly intentionally. But there we go. SSDD.

      FWIW I think Francis got a good old fashioned political situation handed to him and, for whatever it was worth to him, caved.

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    Man… this is like a black person trying to be a legitimate member of the kkk… ‘…but I believe in most of the same things as you guys! Why do you guys want to lynch me too?! I’m so confused!!!’

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      It would seem that the face eating leopards are very inclusive and will eat your face regardless of what you identify as

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    I will never understand how LGBTQIA people can remain religious after reading the bible. It literally tells people to stone you to death with big fucking rocks.

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    I’m shocked, shocked I say, that the people who live in their own religious state that is walled off from the world and has been there for a thousand years don’t have an understanding of the lives of modern people.

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      Walled off…? You really need to see for yourself the true extent of the vatican kingdom, not counting its history and the meaning of it. I’ll go as far as saying that as long as there is a Catholic institution somewhere in the world, that is where the subtle power of the vatican goes.

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    I completely get how LGBTQ people are drawn to Jesus’ message of peace and forgiveness so I can see why they’d want to be included in ‘Christianity’, but I don’t get why they’d care about being Catholic.

    If you’re raised Catholic and think that’s the only way into heaven and then find out that way doesn’t include you- maybe rethink the initial assumption.