The Vatican on Monday declared gender-affirming surgery and surrogacy as grave violations of human dignity, putting them on par with abortion and euthanasia as practices that reject God’s plan for human life.

The Vatican’s doctrine office issued “Infinite Dignity,” a 20-page declaration that has been in the works for five years. After substantial revision in recent months, it was approved March 25 by Pope Francis, who ordered its publication.

In its most eagerly anticipated section, the Vatican repeated its rejection of “gender theory,” or the idea that one’s gender can be changed. It said God created man and woman as biologically different, separate beings, and said people must not tinker with that plan or try to “make oneself God.”

“It follows that any sex-change intervention, as a rule, risks threatening the unique dignity the person has received from the moment of conception,” the document said.

  • Ms. ArmoredThirteen@lemmy.ml
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    It took them five years to whip up a measly 20 pages of dipshittery? Magic space daddy is free to come down here himself and choke on my girl dick if they take such offense to me. Show up quick though I’ve got The Surgery™️ in two months. My unique dignity is I do whatever the fuck I want to with my body, and if god didn’t want that for me shouldn’t have given me the damn thing in the first place

    Also I love that they’re like “don’t modify your precious god given body!” and in the same breath say intersex people should be “corrected”. Fuck these ghouls and fuck anyone who supports them

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      If God wanted the Pope to read, he would have given him better eyes. Take those things off right now, Mr. Pope. Glasses are an affront to God.

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      “don’t modify your precious god given body!”

      “No doctor, you must not remove that child’s appendix! All parts of the body are made in god’s image, and if god wanted this child’s appendix to develop appendicitis, it is surely part of god’s plan!”

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      It’s much easier, if God wanted us to do something instead of any other things then why the fuck will give us free will, instead of making a bunch of robots.

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        From another viewpoint, though, we are all flesh robots. Our bodies are built on genetic programming, our personalities and behavior based on environmental stimuli. How much independent thought or agency can an individual claim to have when so much is predetermined the moment we draw first breath?

        Might even be able to predict it all if you have a powerful enough computer.

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        He is some sort of sadist, the free will is so you don’t want to do whatever it is that you are forced to do. Either be miserable in life or suffer for eternity after death. He loves you a lot btw.

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    So…god did not plan for the reality of the fluidity of genders? The all powerful all knowing god did not account for this in his plan?

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    This pope has always been nothing but a PR figurehead, he says nice platitudes, calls gay people friends, and everyone seems to buy his bullshit. Meanwhile, before he was Pope, he was a bigot, misogynistic, antiquated asshole. All the inclusive things he says are nothing but marketing.

    You know what else violates human dignity? Shuffling around pedo priests so they get away with their abuses. Refusing to meet with or compensate victims of the clergy. Telling clergy not to cooperate with police etc. That’s what violates human dignity

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        I would basically be fine with the Pope if he stopped the child fucking. The bar is pretty low. I try to have a bit of empathy for the elderly not being very progressive.

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    You know what really violates human dignity? Being raped by a priest and then having the church cover it up.

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        Believe it or not, when I made that comment, what I had in mind was Skyrim’s mammoths falling out of the sky, Barbas accidentally pushing me off a cliff, and the hired thugs going “we’re here to teach you a lesson” while I’m fighting Alduin and they helped me deal some damage before they died.

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      You should have seen my divine plan, I test them in worldbox. My first iteration was bombs. But than I saw that it wasn’t really good so I made a perfect Island and everyone is blessed. I was bored so i made everything immortal. Also they could not decalre wars because not death was to be in my world. On the year 332 the first king of the earliest kingdom had 24 kids and a well deserved golden tooth. On the year 1700 they were all very happy.

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      Still an atheist but I would love if I died and found out God was just a guy in a cubicle who inherited a mess from its coworker who was fired.

      “Look I am sorry everyone keeps getting aids and cancer alright I am trying. Freaken galaxies weren’t rotating right so had to invent dark matter. Also Sharon ate the last donut and I get like a billion bug and feature requests from you apes every second. I didn’t sign up for any of this! Ok ok calm I am in my happy place…you should probably go to heaven now. It’s viking heaven but it’s working”

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        I feel like it would be a great fictional concept to explore the Christian God as not all powerful. He’s well connected, certainly, with how many priests there are around the world, but he still has limits. Bad stuff happening? He isn’t able to stop it, but wishes he could. Divine punishment for the truly sick individuals? He could, but it would mean he can’t prevent as much bad stuff as he already is, and humans do a decent enough job of dealing with the shitheads.

        It was a bad idea to have God be omnipotent. The idea of a benevolent god who isn’t omnipotent and needs your help to spread good in the world is a far more compelling idea.

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    I can’t say I really understand the argument against surrogacy they’re making here. It seems like the same argument would mean that adoption shouldn’t be allowed either. Their other argument on the matter seems to be that abuse of a system means a system should be eliminated, which is an interesting argument for the Catholic Church to make.

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      I think their skydaddy logic is it can’t be done without discarding eggs and as we all know each egg has a soul.

      Meanwhile they eat eggs during lent.

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    Funny I felt a lot less dignity without gender affirming surgery.

    And on a bitchier note, my genitals may be handmade, but I’m allowed to use them.

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    I think offloading one’s morality to a patriarchal power-hungry cartel is an embarrassment to human dignity, but you know what I do about it?

    Let people live the one life they have in whatever way they want so long as it doesn’t hurt anyone.

    It’s not anyone else’s job to force their idea of dignity on people, but I guess the Catholic Church isn’t known to stop their clergy from being forced onto unwilling targets.