“I do think in this moment of economic pain and strain that we should be eliminating interest on the debts that are accumulated, No. 1. And No. 2, I’m prepared to write off the $10,000 debt, but not [$50,000],” Biden said, saying he doesn’t believe it can be done with presidential action.
I know enough about how democracy works to know I’m not voting for the guy again. We’re not fucking around here. Make material compromises with leftists or progressives or lose to MAGA. Make a choice.
Lol how old are you? This your first election? Maybe Democrats will make concessions to progressives when we (and young people in general) fucking show up to vote consistently. And not only in presidential races.
Until then, you’re naive if you think you can make ultimatums like that… It’s laughable.
What I was referring to about learning how the world works, was learning how things actually get done in reality, not in your books on poli sci theory.
First off, Biden isn’t a king. The president does not have carte blanche to just eliminate hundreds of billions of dollars in personal debt with the swipe of a pen. Frankly, I would not want that power vested in one person. If he were more authoritarian-inclined, he might try (though authoritarians seem to never use that power to help anyone buy themselves and their buddies), and there are several potential outcomes of that, and none of them end with him getting the thing he originally wanted… Nothing happens in this kind of system without compromise (which is why we see the Republicans’ obstructionism works), so yes, $50k becomes $10k.
There is also this thing called “political capital”… I’m not going to waste any more of my time when you probably won’t even read this far…
Lol how old are you? This your first election? Maybe Democrats will make concessions to progressives when we (and young people in general) fucking show up to vote consistently. And not only in presidential races.
I will be showing up to vote for a 3rd party. So if what you’re saying is true moderates, liberals and establishment Democrats will go “Oh shit. Look at all these reliable voters to the left we’re not reaching.”
Until then, you’re naive if you think you can make ultimatums like that… It’s laughable.
Moderate and liberal voters make these ultimatums every day and you just act like it’s normal.
Biden can’t do it by himself. But we who dumped Trump the first time - minorities and women - will.
Regardless, the United States is doomed to collapse and Balkanize. I’d rather see that than live under a white patriarchal theocratic ethnostate. And I’m not the only one. You’d best take that seriously. You will live to see the USA end. Mark that.
Not sure how the supreme Court is “negotiations” but sure
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-supreme-court-decide-fate-biden-student-loan-forgiveness-2023-06-30/
But he also was able to find other ways to forgive debt through other legal means
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adamminsky/2024/04/05/143-billion-in-student-loan-forgiveness-approved-as-biden-set-to-unveil-new-plan/?sh=92bc9243ed65
Here’s Biden pulling the football.
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/539139-biden-balks-at-50k-student-loan-forgiveness-plan/
“I do think in this moment of economic pain and strain that we should be eliminating interest on the debts that are accumulated, No. 1. And No. 2, I’m prepared to write off the $10,000 debt, but not [$50,000],” Biden said, saying he doesn’t believe it can be done with presidential action.
Emphasis mine.
Yes. He negotiated down.
Assuming you actually believe what you’re saying here, then you’ve got a lot to learn about how the world works.
I know enough about how democracy works to know I’m not voting for the guy again. We’re not fucking around here. Make material compromises with leftists or progressives or lose to MAGA. Make a choice.
Lol how old are you? This your first election? Maybe Democrats will make concessions to progressives when we (and young people in general) fucking show up to vote consistently. And not only in presidential races.
Until then, you’re naive if you think you can make ultimatums like that… It’s laughable.
What I was referring to about learning how the world works, was learning how things actually get done in reality, not in your books on poli sci theory.
First off, Biden isn’t a king. The president does not have carte blanche to just eliminate hundreds of billions of dollars in personal debt with the swipe of a pen. Frankly, I would not want that power vested in one person. If he were more authoritarian-inclined, he might try (though authoritarians seem to never use that power to help anyone buy themselves and their buddies), and there are several potential outcomes of that, and none of them end with him getting the thing he originally wanted… Nothing happens in this kind of system without compromise (which is why we see the Republicans’ obstructionism works), so yes, $50k becomes $10k.
There is also this thing called “political capital”… I’m not going to waste any more of my time when you probably won’t even read this far…
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I will be showing up to vote for a 3rd party. So if what you’re saying is true moderates, liberals and establishment Democrats will go “Oh shit. Look at all these reliable voters to the left we’re not reaching.”
Moderate and liberal voters make these ultimatums every day and you just act like it’s normal.
I know I’m voting for Biden to stop MAGA.
Biden won’t stop MAGA. Liberal politics are incapable of stopping MAGA.
Biden can’t do it by himself. But we who dumped Trump the first time - minorities and women - will.
Regardless, the United States is doomed to collapse and Balkanize. I’d rather see that than live under a white patriarchal theocratic ethnostate. And I’m not the only one. You’d best take that seriously. You will live to see the USA end. Mark that.