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Man, I remember the controversy when this initiative launched. Can’t please anyone, it seems.
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Nobody cared it was running on iCloud. People cared it was going to be running on their phones, scanning literally everything they had.
THIS. I don’t care/I don’t mind companies like Apple or Google using this scanning technology for cloud-based storage services like icloud or google cloud or whatever. But I do not want this creepy surveillance shit on my personal device. Because sure, one day they say that it is used for CSAM. It’s not long before it gets expanded to other stuff like climate crisis protesters/activists or LGBTQ+ content (which need I remind you is illegal in some countries!) or other subjects that the government isn’t a fan of.
The consumer is not at fault for believing their personal data on their own hardrive, in the phone they paid for, should not be seen by anyone but themselves if they do not choose it to be.
It’s not the consumers fault for believing this to be the case given this is how computer technology always worked.
Their only fault is for using Apple, when Apple has gone to extreme lengths to blur the line between what is your and what is theres, and effectively makes it impossible to keep things on your phone only on your phone unless you opt out of iCloud entirely. iCloud is so integrated, it’s not clear to the user that everything on the phone is also on the cloud, and therefore not private.
There are two types of people in support of this scanning: technologically illiterate or malicious.
Either way, keep your invasive scanners off of my shit.
I understand why people want privacy and it’s legitimate. As an honest citizen I’d want that too.
But, as a policeman in a country without a dictator, I feel also really frustrated to know that a pedophile or any criminal is able to escape justice because the encryption is good enough.
It’s always difficult to find the right balance. Especially because some governments are corrupts and trying to eliminate political threats.
I feel also really frustrated to know that a pedophile or any criminal is able to escape justice because the encryption is good enough
How do you know something that’s provably false? Pedophiles who evade justice are not doing careless things that need end to end encryption, like backing up their porn to iCloud. The problem doesn’t start or end with encryption. The policy is entirely about privacy and has nothing to do with protecting children.
I totally agree about privacy, but I can’t agree when some people are thinking every government is trying to do mass surveillance and has evil thoughts.
Online criminality is kind of new and internet can’t just be heaven for criminals.
It’s about finding a right balance between all of these things and remembering that most citizens are honest.
And, despite the fact that some people here just seem to hate the police no matter what, it’s also important to be able to investigate on the web.
One day, these people could be the victim of someone and they would be probably really happy if there was a way to catch these criminals.
That being said I don’t know what the perfect balance is and I’m trying to be open minded about it.
Ah, but as a citizen who doesn’t trust the police or the government even without a dictator. Cops lie all the time, on camera, here. Thankfully everyone sees why this is a gross invasion of privacy.
Would you be in favor of mandatory explosive implants in the brain that can only be activated by police? Consider all the crimes that could be stopped dead on their tracks.
“Some governments.” Government is corruption. How much varies, but if given leeway they all go the same direction.
That’s you, by the way—the hand of corruption. Respectfully.
This outrage is going to be had by several people who want protection of children who had monsters do a terrible thing to them and who exacerbated the situation by uploading it to the cloud, which makes sharing it easier. However, these people aren’t seeing the bigger implications of this. I don’t really think many of the people that are against CSAM scanning are against protection for children or prevention of the very thing this is designed to prevent, myself included. However, what people are against is the scanning of material on your phone (which is what Apple proposed). People don’t want pictures scanned on their phones, even if it’s only as those photos will be uploaded to the cloud. Several companies were doing the scanning after the content was placed on the cloud, which many people against the previously mentioned scanning were in favor of. Apple, who is not in favor of scanning of your cloud data, was against this, which I think is admirable.
The fact of the matter is that scanning data for any purpose is at odds with the protection of your privacy. I, for one, am in favor of privacy protection. And although at times it may seem like people are against things like the protection for children, the fact is we’re actually in favor of protection for everyone.
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