• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    This is one of the only reasons I’m still a little hopeful about 2024. Even if Trump wins, he very well could not control the legislature. And because of abortion.

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      He’s not aiming to depend on the legislature.

      Going to replace career non-partisan positions across most departments.

      Once you own the paper pushers, doing things by the book becomes much less relevant.

      In theory there were rules in Germany that would have prevented Hitler up until the point he declared those rules no longer applied and his armed militia agreed with him.

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      It’s a truly bizarre single issue to focus on considering how high impact it is to the masses and how it presumably isn’t enabling them to make more money or solidify control.

      If they just brought in a couple of populist policies that made the masses happy they probably would have majority control indefinitely on a platform of hate against the minority.

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    I hope everyone uses the following buzz-words when discussing this with conservatives, moderates, centrists, etc.:

    • “I mean I’m for individual freedom as much as the next guy, so that’s why I don’t think it’s right to have government intrude on an individual’s rights to their own body.”

    • “I thought Republicans wanted small government? Why are they forcing government in the doctor’s office with me and my doctor?”

    • “I thought Republicans were all about ‘my house my rules,’ — why are they so concerned about an unconscious parasite that is getting free rent from my body? That fetus is a squatter I can evict whenever I want!”

    Identify the double-standard in conservative values.

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      Legit people need to start doing this. I’ve been saying it for years.

      ‘I’m a true American patriot, I’m not gonna let the government tell me or my fiancee what I can and can’t do with my body. Stop being a commy’ said to an anti abortion republican with an American flag. I also call them snowflakes.

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        It works with all the anti-LGBTQ stuff, too:

        “I’m a rugged individualist, which is why I think people should be able to identify and call themselves whatever they want!”

        “As a freedom lover, I see no difference between respecting someone preferring to be called Josh over Joshua, and someone preferring different pronouns. Doesn’t 'ffect me none… After all, it’s just about showing respect to your good neighbor.”

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          Good neighbor reminded me, it also works for religion if you’re talking to those types.

          ‘the lord said love thy neighbor and something about throwing stones, fuck you for being a bigot’.

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        Ooh I love the “don’t be a commie” addition. We all know how desperately those snowflake conservatives want to be part of the in-group. That shit will make their heads hurt.

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          It’s not really about swaying them, but swaying everyone else listening in.

          This is how right-wing propaganda has been so effective. Fox News & affiliates literally promote brainwashing to have the crazy uncles memorize soundbite talking-points to project at Thanksgiving Dinners and so forth across America.

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          Yea I don’t debate them online and even in person I don’t really debate them more so just respond once calling them out using their terms and then I just move on while calling them snowflakes.

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        Unfortunately, that’s not very helpful for convincing people to change their minds. All of these read as “patting myself on the back because now I’m enlightened to the truth.” And that’s fine, and good, but unhelpful as a debate tool.

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      Don’t forget “I thought Republicans were the party of states rights? Why are they trying to ban abortion nationally after some states held elections to protect abortion in their state constitution?”

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        Oh that’s a good one, I’ll take note.

        At the end of the day the revolving door of inconsistent conservative values just exposes their real values: “what I want and what I believe and fuck everyone else”

        The great thing about highlighting this stuff is it resonates heavily with swing-voters and fence sitters. It’s what helped me move from right to left.

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    Rant

    I want to say something as I’m frustrated with America and stupid text messages.

    Please vote and try to avoid voting for GOP, it seems gop only want control and money for the rich. Whereas democrats are at least trying to help the average American.

    This is my opinion thanks for letting me stand on my soap box.

    End rant.

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    Does this person support electoral reform?

    Switching away from first past the post voting makes third parties viable and eliminates the spoiler effect. Just search for videos on FPTP voting if you want an explanation on how and why first past the post voting makes third parties not viable.

    Electoral reform is possible in each individual state (for now), we dont need federal reform! Maine and Alaska have already passed electoral reform actually.

    So what’s the hold up with the rest of the states? Start a campaign in your own state! Force our representatives to compete with fresh outside ideas. We deserve the best representation, not excuses.

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      You know I remember reading some Republicans like first past the post voting. Should we keep using the voting system they prefer?

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        Some Republicans also like lemonade. Doesn’t mean lemonade is bad now. Something something broken clock.