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    9 months ago

    “I still don’t get why people spend money”

    Because you want to support specific content creators and free isn’t sustainable

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    I know I might be a bit of a porn snob but since I have the means I will attempt to pay for my porn. It’s hard to know if any random porn video was made ethically and that the actors/actresses are being paid appropriately. That’s why I like onlyfans. This way I’m, mostly, assured the money is is going directly to the preformer(s).

    Not to say onlyfans can’t be predatory. As long as I am being descerning in my purchases I am comfortable with it. If an onlyfans model started wildly blurring the line of service provider and customer, I would recommend not paying for services any more. This can be difficult too because I know some of the services invovle intense interpersonal sexual fantasy. I would just say be careful. Especially if you find yourself struggling financially.

    Edit:

    This isn’t to say all free porn is ethically/morally wrong. I do still browse pornhub etc. I just don’t have the where withal to investigate every single content creator. You never know, the actor/actresses could seem as though they are producing the content at their own volition but there could be a business partner that is taking advantage.

    All this to say, we should be more careful when consuming porn.

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      I thought about paying for it. I checked out my favorite site, and it costs more than my monthly phone bill, that’s just absurd. And greedy.

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      You are correct… but I’ve seen all sort of free content from producers (couples or just a single girl) that just like to share that stuff for free. Why? It’s a kink they have… and I have to mention that that amateur content is THE BEST porn I’ve ever seen! No bullshit, just people enjoying in the moment! Love it!

      Basically, if I do watch porn, I only watch amateur content, mosly free, but some might also be promotional videos.

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      well said

      sometimes there are cute little upsides to paying for porn. for example, at least one person i followed would let you “purchase” poloroids they took of themselves (usually more artsy shots) which would then be sent via mail to you. she wrote little notes on the back, cool poetry, etc.

      personally, lewd art from a lewd artist is way more alluring/interesting to me and adds a lot to the “experience.”

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    Not quite OnlyFans, but when you have specific interests, you gotta find specific folks with skills tailored towards those interests.

    Source: Close buddy of mine is a furry fetish artist. Not suspiciously wealthy, but he’s full time drawing raptor asses.

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      I don’t get the whole furry thing but sometimes I wish I had artistic talents because I would have no qualms getting paid to draw whatever degenerative crap people are into these days. Seems like a solid side hustle.

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        Furry is just the kinda general term for the whole fandom. If you wanna refer to a furry or a scalie character without worrying about calling a scaly fella furry, anthro works plenty fine.

        Also they most likely had feathers, which is rad as shit in my books.

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      This. Also in real life, people with specific talents know they’re rare and charge accordingly. Pornhub is full of average stuff and if that does it for you great (though I’d argue anyone considering themselves a ‘porn addict’ is unlikely to be satisfied with basic porn)

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    If you claim to be a porn addict but have never been tempted by or succumbed to spending money on porn, are you really an addict?

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      My mate, Paul, is addicted to cigarettes but he never has his own fuckin smokes. You telling me, he ain’t really an addict?

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      Not sure but tell you what, I watch porn for at least 2 hours a day every day and I never once paid for it. Now I said 2 hours cause I don’t include hentai or hentai games in that. To be fair even thought I pirate most hentai games I did buy the ones that I really enjoyed and are on Steam. So no for porn I never payed I did however payed for hentai. And I most certainly have an addiction or at least a disorder considering the amount of time I waste on this!

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          Depends, do you mean the ones that are on Steam or others too?

          Also it depends of what you are interested in, in my case those are ones that I consider the best out there (those ones are in no particular order):

          Summertime Saga

          Love & Sex Second Base

          Another Chance

          Paradise Lust

          A Town Uncovered

          Four Elements Trainer

          Witch Hunter

          Insexual Awakening

          SexNote

          Imouto! Life Fantasy

          Quickie: A Love Hotel Story

          LonaRPG

          Teaching Feeling

          Breeding Farm

          Out of touch

          But in my case I like those for stats management and stuff like that.

          For story what I would recommend is (those are in order from best to last):

          Out of Touch!

          Love & Sex Second Base

          Summertime Saga

          Paradise Lust

          For RPG puzzle and 3D as well as a very good story I recommend:

          Lust Epidemic

          Treasures of Nadia

          The Genesis Order

          In exactly the order I said them as they are part of the same story!

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      Ummm… IDK, maybe I’m not… or maybe I like stuff that is so niche, people usually just throw it out there for free in hopes of finding someone to engage with them 🤔 🤷… IRL in most cases… which is what I what I would be after in the first place.

      I mean, porn is nice, it’s a temporary fix and you can fill a gap with it… but it doesn’t replace the real thing.

      My 2 cents.

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        Don’t know what to tell you man, frankly the amount of effort you have to put up during sex not to mention the amount of nagging you have to put up with in order to get sex kinda is off-putting to me or more specifically it’s at 50/50 but I do sometimes prefer to masturbate rather then have sex due to what I mentioned above.

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          I do agree. I masturbate mostly the past few years as well (pushing late 30’s, I have to be honest).

          But… when it comes to real world encounters, hell, I’m all in. Bullshitters everywhere when it comes to my kink, but when that true one comes along… it’s worth the wait 🤤.

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    Just like with video games, the people paying for it are what keeps the supply going for the freeloaders. They should grateful to them!

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      Ummm… no.

      Freeloaders are only there because there is a product in the first place. If there was no product, freeloading off it wouldn’t exist.

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            Prohibited was the ban of alcohol (yes, technical it was the limitation of alcohol, but the laws put in place made it impossible to legally get alcohol), and so a mass black market for alcohol was created. Moonshine, home made whiskey, the term bootlegger was made for someone who smuggled alcohol. The freeloaders were now the only people who had alcohol, and the government really didn’t like that, so they literally began poisoning alcohol to get people to stop drinking. Eventually, the government had to give up because they were loosing money just by banning alcohol. The freeloaders ensure that if something like alcohol is banned by the government, it will not stop people from enjoying it.

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              Oh, so you were on my side 😁.

              Didn’t know about the poisoning part, that is a nice bit of chilling info about how far governments will go to enforce something they think it’s right… no different than terrorists I guess…

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    I think people don’t pay for porn, people pay to be able to interact with the girl.

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    I mean, you know how there are a million free indie games and lots of slightly shady websites where you can download free copies of paid games? But lots of people still buy games because it’s a better experience or they like to feel like they’re supporting people who are making the kinds of games that they like? It’s a lot like that, but with stigma.

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      I still don’t get it…

      Call me an old fashioned pirate, but for me, it’s more about the trip than it is about the destination.

      I’ve been encountered with this fact about myself many times… I like this girl from somexxx.com website and I gotta take a look at what she’s got published. Low and behold, all sorts of content! OK, gotta pick and find them one by one, gotta be picky about it, 1080p rips only, no 720p bullshit… aaaand after days of searching and downloading… I GOT IT ALL 🤤! And then I don’t even watch it 😒. AND THAT PISSES ME OFF ABOUT ME 😤!

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        Well that’s just the piracy magpie collector instincts lol. I dunno, I’ve never paid for that kind of porn, just AVNs

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          AVNs? 🤨

          Sorry, I am a pirate, but I don’t download that much porn 😂.

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      I’m of the same sentiment but I don’t judge people that pay for porn, after all without them paying for it there would be no money in the porn industry so as a consequence no porn either. Simply put I will never pay for porn but I’m glad that others do so I can feed my addiction.

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      Like what… ego boost 🤨… some chick mentions your name in her stream and you get a hardon from it 🤨?

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          Yeah, but that’s still IRL… I would maybe pay for something like that IRL, but online… no, I don’t see the point. It’s not a real experience, it’s like saying you can parrent your kids via Viber when you’re abroad… no, you can’t. You need to be physically there if you wanna be a real parrent.

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        You’re like me and poor but I’ve been around people with jobs and stuff who can afford to throw away money on things and they seem to really enjoy the transaction element to things.

        Like being able to use money to get what they want feels good to them because it kinda justifies their life being dedicated to making money. It’s different for different people but you see the ones who love to buy something others can’t have like five min in private video chat is exclusive so makes them feel special, or you get the ones who feel special by funding something for the group like reaching a target or funding a creator they like.

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    Onlyfans is an oddity wrapped in an enigma. Not only is there a ton of free porn + all the porn one can torrent but there are dozens of free cam sites out there. I mean dead free! One can watch thousands of nude models nonstop.

    There should be no reason to pay for onlyfans. Ever.

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      And yet, more and more women get onboard the OF train… you’d think people will get saturated with it after a while…

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    Let us not disrespect the paying consoomer as they effectively sponsor the rest of us, especially those using adblockers

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      But… they still have to release trailers and ads… that’s still free porn…

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          And they would still do it, even if no one pays for it. Why? In hope that someone will actually pay for it…

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            Here’s the thing: Yes, there are lots of people doing amateur and uploading to pornhub, and there are even some people doing higher quality stuff on free sites. And there are full videos pirated from pay sites.

            If all you want is to slob your meat to whatever is available, or if you just have very generic desires, more power to you. Personally, I have specific tastes and buying a year-long membership to Kink.com for $120 a year on Black Friday every year does not put a dent in my finances, but it does get me access to thousands of extremely high quality videos with great production quality that cater to my specific desires and are freely downloadable for me to save in Stash.

            I feel that is completely reasonable to either pay for porn or not pay for porn based on a number of factors. What I don’t understand is the willful ignorance of why someone might choose to pay for porn.

            The other thing that I can’t get behind is your insistence throughout this thread that people paying for porn isn’t what supports your ability to get free porn. It is, there are just no two ways about it. If people weren’t willing to pay money for porn, there would be a lot less of it and it would be way less accessible. Most people posting content on PH are doing it to advertise their OF profiles and if everyone who visited PH had an adblocker on, there would be no way for them to pay the massive hosting costs that come with being a streaming video provider of that size. By and large, porn exists because people will pay money for it, and your ability to access massive quantities of it is 100% funded by people who “pay” via ad impressions.

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              If people weren’t willing to pay money for porn, there would be a lot less of it and it would be way less accessible.

              Even if that was true, so what. There’s already tons of it available from decades of production. You can’t possibly watch all of it.

              You just wanna pay for porn, plain and simple… like I wanna eat burger from time to time. Now, if someone told me that there is free food (not a free burger, just free food) somewhere where they also serve burgers, I would eat the free food 9 out of 10 times, while you would pay for the burger 10 out of 10 times… if it’s on sale, maybe like 7 or 8 out of 10 if it wasn’t on sale.

              I do have specific kinks that I enjoy, but there really is A LOT of free or pirated content out there. I really really don’t see a point paying for it. Even if there is no pirated content, there really is a lot that is completely free… like I probably wouldn’t be able to watch all of it in a year if I watched porn non-stop, 24/7.

              Most people posting content on PH are doing it to advertise their OF profiles and if everyone who visited PH had an adblocker on, there would be no way for them to pay the massive hosting costs that come with being a streaming video provider of that size.

              Yet on the other hand, everyone here recommends using ad blockers when YT is in the picture… how is PH any different 🤨.

              In the end, they decided to go into this business, that comes with the teritory (ad blockers and all that)… and apprently, they’re not doing that bad, I mean, you can clearly see that the site is progressing.

              By and large, porn exists because people will pay money for it, and your ability to access massive quantities of it is 100% funded by people who “pay” via ad impressions.

              Paying with watching ads is not the same thing as plain out right paying for something. Besides, how much money will they get out of me watching ads 🤔? $2 or $3 on a yearly basis, and that is only if I watch A LOT of porn (ads are cheap nowadays). That is not what keeps the industry going, it’s the hope of being paid for someone seeing your content that keeps it alive. They might not get paid ever, or not enough (dead end content creaters, it is quite common nowadays, you see abandoned PH profiles or OF links), so they quit… or they didn’t advertise their content enough or in the right places… whatever the cause, it’s the notion of easy money that keeps the industry going, not being actually paid for porn. You know how many freebies porn scene newbies give out to try and get subscribers to their OF or MV pages? It is A LOT of content… and it’s all free 🤷.

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    Because they have more money than you. Disposable income is going to be disposed of, one way or another.