Oh look, another war crime. How many is that now?
You tend to lose count after the first few hundred.
A war crime occurred when Hamas put a military installation in a civilian hospital.
Once that happened, attacking the hospital to get at the military base is not itself a war crime.
You might wish it was, but that’s not what the law says.
That excuse has been used way too many times in bad faith
That’s assuming that that’s actually happening. The article only gives the IDF’s word, no evidence.
Evidence that there was Hamas? Nobody trusts the IDF on their lying word.
evidence there was no hamas? no body trusts the hamas on their lying word
Hamas tolerates reporters, Israel murders them. I know which one I’m more compelled to take at face value when no better sources exist (because Israel murdered them).
Let’s go back on how Israel became Israel and their entire regime. Murder (of men, women and children) and displacing 750 000 Palestinian people. Apartheid, racism. Illegal settlements.
Lying to the world about almost everything and not to forget how they speak about Palestinian people (calling them rats, animals and so on). Also to mention they are saying to drop an atomic bomb on Palestinian people (Gaza).
But that’s all “okay”, right? In your eyes.
Not to forget, Hamas was only created in 1987 because of Israel’s action from 1948 up to 1987. That’s 39-40 years later.
EDIT: some corrections like “there” to “their”
No, that is a hoax. International law revolves around proportionality and civilian security, explicitly protecting civilian medical facilities and their medical personnel. They are not invalidated according to the crimes of the other side.
In fact, this would still be a war crime even if there was a nuclear silo under the hospital. You might wish it was, but that’s not what the law says.
Reference Geneva IV, Article 19.
Civilian hospitals can lose their protection if the sites are used for “acts harmful to the enemy.”
“Losing protection” refers to the total overprotection granted by the above article, do not pretend that this grants carte blanche. The rest of international humanitarian law and other laws still apply, including the rest of the geneva convention.
That same article establishes clear limits of proportionality which they did not comply with, and even if they had complied they have violated so many others (have you read the news?). This attack is flagrantly illegal, and is one of the most moderate they have had against hospitals.
It’s also a war crime that every Palestinian has a Hamas military installation in their body. Israel knows and is going to solve that problem. Better hope a Hamas military installation doesn’t happen to you or Israel will be coming for you. /s
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Nazisrael
“Nazisrael” is clever, but crossing a line. Removed.
Israel calls Khamaaas Nazi’s on live TV but calling the people doing literal Genocide to create an ethnostate “Nazi’s” is too far?
If anything this has been the most apt period of time in the last 75 years to invoke Godwins law.
Be semi-happy, at least its shows what kind of people the mods are. They approve Israeli’s hateful Shit but don’t approve the opposite.
Says much more about the mods themselves than about the other people.
It’s a reflection of our society. Israel’s government saying ISIS tier fundie shit about killing Palestinians (and actually doing it) is somehow considered normal because MSM said so. Any dissident or that calls out their war-crimes is “offensive and controversial”.
We have to combat Genocide with a silver tongue. It’s insanity.
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Anyone who has read my comments knows I don’t approve of anything Israel has been doing, at least in my lifetime, and I’ve often compared their treatment of the Palestinians to the ghetto-ization of Jews in 1939.
https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/nazi-germany-and-establishment-ghettos
But as a group we do not allow slurs, even inventive new ones.
Feel free to criticize them, but not with slurs.
Since when is it an insult to call people what they are? They are doing the nearly the same thing - if not the exact same thing.
Israel is doing:
- Stealing land
- Ethnic cleansing
- Genocide
- Calling Palestinians rats, animals and more cruel things
- Wanting to erase the entire Palestinian race
- Lying to the world
- They think they are “superior” than Palestinian people
- They think and say that Palestinian people are, they “inferior” race
- Apartheid
- Sent Palestinian people jail/ prison for no reason (even kids)
- Beat Palestinian people for no reason or provoke to “get a reason”
Does these things ring a bell? I’m sure it does because the Nazis were doing the same thing.
There’s an image which shows the very similarities between Nazis and Israel government. Certainly, I’m not allowed to show it because you will delete it.
You know we can see this, right?
I mean I was thinking more https://youtu.be/SYkbqzWVHZI
This is why people move to [email protected]
You called?
Enforcing rules? Pretty sure they do that there too…
No, making and enforcing rules arbitrarily which was the reason many of us left reddit.
Although tbf I think these two communities balance each other out because the mods on lemmy.ml have their own set of stupid and arbitrary rules enforcement.
It’s not arbitrary. Everything is outlined in the sidebar, not that the offenders ever actually READ the sidebar. But it is there.
What do we do if moderation fail us?
Start a different instance or community.
That’s the glory of federation, baby!
Sure would be nice instead of being forced to abandon a growing space, that the admins actually took their job of curbing activist mods.
But they never will, ever, anywhere.
Fuck mods, fuck admins, they are all power tripping assholes.
I mean, some of them are good sometimes.
It just depends. I think the answer is to always have a way out. That way we’re not beholden to any single group like we were with redshit.
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Is the mantra of Israel “All publicity is good publicity”? They make headlines every day with war crimes destroying their own reputation rather than Hamas.
How’s any of it bad though? They’re getting cheered on by a significant number of people for the genocide.
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Because the Middle East has oil, and the US insists on controlling it, despite being on the other side of the world. Israel is effectively a US colony that can be used as a reliable forward base for the US to fuck up the entire Middle East.
I’d be cool with just pulling all support from them.
Let them fight their own battles instead of bringing the rest of the world down with them. 9/11 literally happened because the US supports Israel, but we still haven’t learned our lesson.
IIRC Osama bin Laden had three reasons for 9/11. One was non-Muslim soldiers in Saudi Arabia (he was salty because Kuwait asked the US for aid against Iraq and not the Taliban). The other was Israel. I don’t recall the third off the top of my head.
Israel has nukes. And given their zeal with murdering civilians, it wouldn’t be off the table for them to threaten them if anyone invaded.
Increasingly there is no difference between Israel and US police officers. “I feared for my life against a 12 year old so I shot them” vs “Hamas is in the hospital so we destroyed the hospital”.
It truly says something about someone’s lack of humanity when they attack a hospital. At least evacuate everyone first to another hospital.
It’s not a coincidence. For instance there’s the GILEE program which is literally a Georgia to Israel police exchange/training program.
NSFL (death+gore) some images of the aftermath
Isn’t it funny how israel claimed to have full control of the north of Gaza but Hamas magically pops up in a hospital in northern Gaza to “plan attacks”
Still gun fights reported this morning at the hospital. Shooting both ways.
Why are so many doctors and nurses armed? Or is it the patients?
