Yeah there are lots of reasons. Tiktok has been proven to be harvesting browsing habits, biometrics (facial ID and fingerprints), voice identification, key logging, and more.
You are giving your face, fingerprints, and voice to a state sponsored entity in the age of deep fakes and broad sweeping intelligence operations.
If you’re pro China, then this is a good thing. If you care about identity theft, deep fakes, or your credentials being sold on the dark web, then tiktok is a Very Bad Thing.
Firstly, the US government has greater authority and ability to fine or otherwise leverage financial action against companies incorporated in the US.
Secondly, Facebook leadership has been repeatedly called to testify in front of Congress for various reasons in recent years, and in doing so has been held accountable for numerous failures. In August of last year they paid out $725 mil in a class action lawsuit. Although not US, still NATO example: In May of 2023 they were fined 1.2b euros for breach of data by the UK.
They were also recently called to testify in front of US congress about the online child exploitation crisis.
Granted they make billions, but they are getting punished for mismanagement, both publicly and financially. It may be a drop in the bucket, so to speak, but it’s been enough for them to change their policies and practices over the years.
Firstly, the US government has greater authority and ability to fine or otherwise leverage financial action against companies incorporated in the US.
But never does it with Facebook and not over gathering data, your reasoning for banning TikTok.
Secondly, Facebook leadership has been repeatedly called to testify in Congress for various reasons in recent years
A slap on the wrist resulting in no significant changes and nothing to do with gathering data.
In August of last year they paid out $725 mil in a class action lawsuit.
Not the U.S. government. You could have the same lawsuit against TikTok.
Although not US, still NATO example
Irrelevant, other NATO countries are not currently trying to ban TikTok.
They were also recently called to testify in front of US congress about the online child exploitation crisis.
As above, a slap on the wrist resulting in no significant changes. Also, nothing to do with exploitation of data.
they are getting punished for mismanagement, both publicly and financially.
Slaps on the wrist are not punishment and they are not being punished for gathering data. They also make more revenue every single year. They haven’t lost any money.
It may be a drop in the bucket, so to speak, but it’s been enough for them to change their policies and practices over the years.
They have not changed any of their data gathering policies except to make them so that they can gather more data.
Stop changing the subject. You said TikTok is getting banned by the government for data gathering. I told you Facebook is not being punished by the government for doing the same thing. All you can do is sue them. Just like you could sue TikTok if you could get a case together.
At this point I am choosing to no longer engage in this conversation. Your counter arguments seem to convey so little comprehension (willful or unwitting) that I feel engaging further would not meaningfully contribute to the discussions held in this thread moving forward.
I’m not surprised since you demonstrated very clearly that Facebook has not been punished by the U.S. government for data gathering despite TikTok getting punished for doing the same thing.
I wouldn’t call this “classic moral panic”. I would characterize it as our nations leaders demanding that Tiktok revisit their data collection practices in the interest of protecting US citizens.
If politicians cared about privacy they would be passing a law that inhibits Meta AND Tiktok. American industries get away with simmiliar level of BS, but privacy isn’t a concern to American politicians so long as it’s American eyes watching.
If politicians care one iota about privacy they’d be limiting and regulating what the government itself, some thing they have total control over, can aquire as data.
Is there a reason to care one way or the other about this? Because I haven’t been able to come up with one.
Yeah there are lots of reasons. Tiktok has been proven to be harvesting browsing habits, biometrics (facial ID and fingerprints), voice identification, key logging, and more.
You are giving your face, fingerprints, and voice to a state sponsored entity in the age of deep fakes and broad sweeping intelligence operations.
If you’re pro China, then this is a good thing. If you care about identity theft, deep fakes, or your credentials being sold on the dark web, then tiktok is a Very Bad Thing.
Seems like the big difference between that and Facebook is China. I’m not sure that’s a big reason to be concerned specifically about TikTok.
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You can’t possibly believe that. When has Facebook ever been held accountable?
Google is your friend.
Firstly, the US government has greater authority and ability to fine or otherwise leverage financial action against companies incorporated in the US.
Secondly, Facebook leadership has been repeatedly called to testify in front of Congress for various reasons in recent years, and in doing so has been held accountable for numerous failures. In August of last year they paid out $725 mil in a class action lawsuit. Although not US, still NATO example: In May of 2023 they were fined 1.2b euros for breach of data by the UK.
They were also recently called to testify in front of US congress about the online child exploitation crisis.
Granted they make billions, but they are getting punished for mismanagement, both publicly and financially. It may be a drop in the bucket, so to speak, but it’s been enough for them to change their policies and practices over the years.
Action against tiktok is intended to do the same.
But never does it with Facebook and not over gathering data, your reasoning for banning TikTok.
A slap on the wrist resulting in no significant changes and nothing to do with gathering data.
Not the U.S. government. You could have the same lawsuit against TikTok.
Irrelevant, other NATO countries are not currently trying to ban TikTok.
As above, a slap on the wrist resulting in no significant changes. Also, nothing to do with exploitation of data.
Slaps on the wrist are not punishment and they are not being punished for gathering data. They also make more revenue every single year. They haven’t lost any money.
They have not changed any of their data gathering policies except to make them so that they can gather more data.
Stop changing the subject. You said TikTok is getting banned by the government for data gathering. I told you Facebook is not being punished by the government for doing the same thing. All you can do is sue them. Just like you could sue TikTok if you could get a case together.
You have not showed me to be incorrect.
At this point I am choosing to no longer engage in this conversation. Your counter arguments seem to convey so little comprehension (willful or unwitting) that I feel engaging further would not meaningfully contribute to the discussions held in this thread moving forward.
I’m not surprised since you demonstrated very clearly that Facebook has not been punished by the U.S. government for data gathering despite TikTok getting punished for doing the same thing.
It’s just classic moral panic. Our politicians really want us to hate China when it’s like, nah bruh I hate Microsoft.
I wouldn’t call this “classic moral panic”. I would characterize it as our nations leaders demanding that Tiktok revisit their data collection practices in the interest of protecting US citizens.
If politicians cared about privacy they would be passing a law that inhibits Meta AND Tiktok. American industries get away with simmiliar level of BS, but privacy isn’t a concern to American politicians so long as it’s American eyes watching.
If politicians care one iota about privacy they’d be limiting and regulating what the government itself, some thing they have total control over, can aquire as data.