In a surprise move, an Illinois judge has removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s ballot based on the 14th Amendment’s so-called “insurrectionist ban.”

The decision is paused, giving Trump a short period of time to appeal.

Wednesday’s unexpected decision comes as a similar anti-Trump challenge from Colorado is pending before the US Supreme Court, which is widely expected to reject arguments that Trump is barred from office.

Cook County Circuit Judge Tracie Porter heavily relied on the prior finding by the Colorado Supreme Court, calling Colorado’s “rationale compelling.”

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    I’m glad it’s happening. However, I am almost sure SCOTUS will not allow it no matter what and will find some spurious reason that the 14th Amendment doesn’t apply to Trump.

    Also, I wish it wasn’t a state that Trump was pretty much guaranteed to lose anyway. Oh well, I guess it’s a start.

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      I’m not so sure. SCOTUS knows the confidence of them is at an all time low (18%). Even if Trump was re-elected I don’t think there is more he can offer them. They already have the job. They need confidence back or the states are going to start ignoring them.

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        Since there are zero concrete consequences for SCOTUS members from having low confidence from the public, they would need to actually care about what the “plebes” think of them for that to make any difference.

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        Not only has he nothing more to offer them, but he has promised to be a dictator from day one, if reelected. A dictator threatens the power of judges in all courts. That’s not something they should take lightly.

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        Hey, they’ve got Ethics guidelines now, so they’ve solved whatever trust issues the public may have had, so they don’t need to hear any of this malarkey anymore. It’s full steam ahead for the Christo-nationalist fascist takeover.

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      Not to mention that if he is off of any 1 ballot and loses, he has ammunition for another Jan6. If he has a “fair shot” and loses, there is less plausibility and (hopefully) fewer followers in the repeat.

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      States don’t have to obey the supreme court.

      The supreme court is a suggestion body more than anything else.

      As soon as we stop taking them seriously, they stop having power.

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        That’s certainly what Alabama thinks and why they won’t draw districts that aren’t racist.

        The question is why you’re on their side that state law takes precedence over federal law.

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            Unjust federal laws means that the South should be allowed to be as racist as they want to be? Really? Plessy vs. Ferguson can just be ignored?

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              Try looking at things on a case-by-case basis then life will start to make more sense.

              After that, look into the concepts of “civil disobedience” and the “social contract.”

              Come back when you’ve educated yourself more on the subject matter.

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                Who decides which SCOTUS cases can be ignored? Because right now, Alabama is ignoring a SCOTUS ruling to stop their racist gerrymandering. No one is able to stop them from doing it. Insulting me will not change the fact that ignoring a SCOTUS ruling is, right now, allowing official state racism to stand. And there has been no civil disobedience enough to stop it.

                So, without insulting me- how do you ensure the South doesn’t just ignore Plessy vs. Ferguson?

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                  Federal law has never controlled state elections.

                  Why do u think scotus has any power over how state elections are run here? Plessy v Ferguson doesn’t even apply here.

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                  Why don’t you just make your own thread to talk about your specific case instead of trying to hijack my comments?

                  You clearly can’t understand the words being put in front of you, so why would I continue this discussion?

                  Goodbye.

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                    I don’t think your insults are called for and I don’t think it would be hard to answer my question if it is such a simple matter.