Wendy’s has spoken to its manager after suggestions that it plans to introduce “surge pricing” to its menu received a decidedly frosty response this week, with the company scrambling to clarify that it has no intention of making itself the Uber of fast-food chains.

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    So to clarify, they’re saying that they’ll roll it out in ‘25 or so. And that it will be only used for discounts.

    What they’re not sayin, is that they’re going to take the year to jack prices to 3x normal- incrementally so people won’t notice all at once.

    Then they will offer discounts- 50%, maybe.

    So even the discounted price will still be 1.5x more costly, while the surge pricing is 3x.

    Further, they’ll probably tie the discounts to app use; an app which invades your phone and gives them shitloads of data.

    Tl:dr: Wendy’s CEO thinks we’re all dumb.

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      Tl:dr: Wendy’s CEO thinks we’re all dumb.

      People still purchase Wendy’s, he’s got good reason to think that.

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      It will be the anti surge. Just charge prices 3x higher but if you own the app and come in between 1pm and 5pm you can get 50% off. I hate this “own the app for discounts” but this is 100% what will happen. Id be willing to wager my sons entire life on this.

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      an app which invades your phone and gives them shitloads of data

      Their app isn’t too bad (at least for now). It has enough data collection that I wouldn’t want to download it, but it isn’t just strait spyware like some fast food apps cough McDonald’s.

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        Speaking of things that the McDonald’s app has access to, I just double checked mine on Android and it has permissions to access your pictures and files by default, I’m sure it was part of that thing that you just select through in order to access the app but that’s kind of concerning can understand location, files is a little weird

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          The earlier version required access to all your files to even start. They did update it to not need that anymore. But if you already had it installed with access to files, it kept that access.

          But, yes, that’s completely unacceptable they required that at all.

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        It’s tracking location.

        That’s a pretty massive red flag for an app that has exactly zero need for it.

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          It’s for store finding. While you and I might not use it a lot of people do.

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            Sure it is. I believe you.

            (Or is it that store finding is the excuse?)

            edit to clarify: is it a useful feature? I guess. but, I very much doubt that people are using that feature more than the first time they find a location. or needing to.

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              I have set it as “Ask me everytime” and only used it when I needed to locate a nearby McD. Recently the “Deals” stopped showing up as it required location data with precision setting turned on. So, if I need to use the Deals I need to share my location which shows that they are mining your data for the deals. I kill the app after I order as they don’t need to track me from my home to the restaurant.

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      I think all CEOs think their clientele are dumb. It’s literally the only real requirement to be a CEO, besides already being rich and knowing the right people.

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      The CEO should be fired. Thousands of restaurants already have variable, demand based pricing, but no one cares because those restaurants call it “happy hour”.

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      I mean in the CEOs defense most people are fucking dumb. I mean just look what happened to jcpenney, their CEO decided let’s stop with the bullshit no more fake sales no more fake prices everything is the real price on the sticker and it almost bankrupted them.

      People were so stupid that they would go to the store across the mall to buy the exact same pair of pants that JCPenney was selling for $20 normal price at $40 “half off” because brain stupid likes the shiny discount sign

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        it doesn’t help that they have an entire army of Doctorates specialized in the psychology of marketing just to bypass your reasoning for emotion.

        our brains are designed to process emotion before reason on account of evolution so it’s not as simple as to say “people are dumb”… even if… people are dumb.

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      This is exactly what Sonic does with drinks. They used to have a half price afternoon window, but now I believe you have to use the app to get it (not 100% sure, their food is garbage)

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        I haven’t been to Sonic in ages.

        there’s an old not-chain drive-in diner near here that’s a thousand times better. (and I mean, like it’s been around long enough to have been one of the OG’s.) IIRC, the only thing I really liked was their ice.

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      Tl:dr: Wendy’s CEO thinks we’re all dumb.

      To be fair, most people are pretty dumb, or at least dumb enough to eat Wendy’s regardless.

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    Fuck them for even suggesting it.

    Boycott anyway. Show we can’t be fucked with else next business will call our bluff.

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      I haven’t eaten at Wendy’s since they discontinued their “Pick 2” salad-and-side deal. I’ve been boycotting since before surge pricing was even announced!

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      That would also teach them to not bother backing down if there’s backlash in response to an announcement…

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        So you have a certain level of annual profit. You suggest something incredibly offensive that you believe will increase profits by say 10% with the idea you can roll it back if its a net negative. The response is so negative that you re-assess and believe you will actually LOSE 10%. You roll it back but people are still pissed so you end up losing 2% to decrease in goodwill.

        Anyone whose take away is that they should just roll on and lose 10% would be a fucking idiot. The proper take away ought to be staff ideas like this with a disinterested third party before announcing to the world so you don’t lose good will in the first place.

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          It is logical, I know for a fact that’s how a lot of executives think when there’s a backlash, they maybe go back part way or all the way on it (usually the former) people are still (rightly) upset then eventually they get jaded to the point of not giving a fuck about the backlash and making even worse decisions.

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            Those executives should be fired. Or at this point they should just set prices regardless of market, even though no one will buy at that price point. Same ridiculous logic.

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                They will find ways to blame anyone or anything else.

                They can say whatever they want, but everyone knows where the buck stops at, who’s ultimately responsible for the decisions. Especially so the stockholders.

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                  In theory sure, but in the real world it’s much more messy and convoluted.

                  Just to state what I thought was obvious, I don’t agree with or think this is how things should be done, but it makes sense if you understand the corporate ghoul mindset.

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            The logical presumption is that the backslash for proposing it is a fraction of what the backlash is for implementing it.

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    Bullshit. They will roll it out in two years when everyone has forgotten. Just to be on the safe side I will probably never eat there again

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    Probably a PR stunt. If heard more about Wendy’s the last 2 days than the last year.

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      Honestly Taco Bell and McDonald’s are better. I’m sick of Wendy’s. Fries suck, burger okay, always left full. McDonald’s breakfast especially. It’s still shitty food that’s bad for you and overpriced, but it gives me the right feel. Wendy’s kinda just sucks.

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    “Online fury” is a most excellent expression.

    Online furies have been awakened and now you can’t stop them, Wendy’s!

    Edit: fixed grammar

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      Exactly, I read in the news paper today that “the increase will be in cents, not dollars”. My immediate reaction was to make the air jerking off motion.

      Corporations will do what’s profitable, that’s our economic system, get used to it or get rid of it.

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    Don’t worry, they’re going to a subscription burger based model. You’ll have to pay them each month to enter the restaurant.

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    I think this was a publicity stunt. We’d all just about completely forgot Wendy’s exists… So they come out with this wild idea, let it float for a couple of days and then cancel it. Smooth PR move.

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        There’s no Wendy’s near me, and I don’t follow their social media. I pretty much forgot they existed for a few years until I heard about this pricing idea.

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        They have funny memes that get posted on Facebook but I don’t know anyone that says “Man I love Wendy’s”

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    On top of the surge pricing the bastards have been spamming me with emails. Damned if I can remember when I used my email with them, but their opt out mechanism has me pissed. Have to type in my email after hitting the link, then clearly remain on the list. Sure, FTC rules say you get 30 days or something before I need to stop receiving emails, but virtually every other marketer seems to take me off immediately.

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        I have been calling y’all for more than a month, every time looney toones comes on, y’all put porkys butthole on. I figure last night, second cartoon came on and it was porkys frigging old butthole. I said surely you aren’t going to put the last two on porkys friggin buthole. Now y’all gonna die if you put prokys butthole on the last cartoon, like you did this morning. I have seen the dang old crap a half million and a half times, I don’t see why in the heck you think these day old youngins are gonna watch porkys dang old butthole, time after time, after time after time and don’t ever get tired of it. Like, yes y’all. Got up at 730 in the morning, and watched all day, and I don’t think you were right on time with your own show all danggum day. I went to bed last night, I wanted to, to get one right. But y’all were wrong, still wrong. I don’t say, guess ima have to call FCC about shutting y’alls down. Ya, no. Alright, dont, you just don’t think three year old kids gonna buy something, buy a dang old armload of stuff, cause y’all be putting those dang old commercials on, dropping that crap on and on and on. It don’t make crap today too, because you was five minutes late and this time your going to be five minutes late like last time, cause you dropping those commercials in there. I tell ya, y’all get ready to quit it. For some reason you think it’s your job to add ten minutes of commercials every dang old time. Every time the show goes off, or IDK, whatever.

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    Why did they even announce it? Just start doing it and wait to see if people care when they notice. You should be able to figure out people aren’t going to like it.

    No one puts out a giant advertisement that their prices are going up. Trial balloon maybe, to gauge reaction?

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    posting works!!!

    imagine coming up with this shit – you must know the evil you’re releasing upon the world. like even if you’re a shithead billionaire, if this god-awful mechanism were to take hold, it’d be annoying and awful for you too right?

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      Yes, useful idiots have been trying for decades to get people to shut up about abuse.

      Glad some of us are smart enough to rise above that behavior.