Henry Ford may have been a prick, but even he had the common sense to realize paying your workers enough to buy your products was mutually beneficial. All this wealth hoarding going on serves nobody but the ultra rich that are simply addicted to watching numbers go up.
No. He did it because turnover was so insane it was cheaper to raise pay.
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It’s a post hoc rationalization of why he paid more. He paid more because he literally couldn’t staff his factory because the assembly line work was so dull.
It doesn’t, actually. You pay all of your workers more so some of them might buy your product, maybe?
The increase in wages for everyone will help, but then capitalists have no choice to attract labor. See: the wages now adjusted vs. the inflation
This chart shows the median wage has gone up since the pandemic, even if using 2023 dollars
So the wages in the US are better than they have ever been, even inflation adjusted. You can go back as long as you want, they were not higher in the 50s, contrary to popular belief
Underpaid employees: Corporations are going to fix this problem they created by paying employees their share of record profits?
Corporations: No, not like that!
Profits are unpaid wages, change my mind.
My boss likes to show us how much money the company is making at our quarterly meetings. I think he thinks it’s morale-building, but I know, in at least the case of me and a co-worker, that all it does is make us think of how low our pay is.
I would just straight up say that next time and make it weird.
Yeah, I want to keep my job. Until I find a better one.
How about we STOP TIEING ESSENTIAL FUCKING SERVICES TO OUR CORPORATE FUCKING OVERLORDS.
Jfc
We tried to de-couple healthcare from employment about a decade ago, and all the support for some form of universal healthcare seemed to vanish overnight as the general population fell for corporate propaganda and right-wing scare tactics.
I always wondered why neighborhoods, HOAs, and apartment buildings etc don’t form their own insurance plans to entice people to live there. Businesses get better rates for group plans so why don’t other organizations? Insurance isn’t my field so I don’t know if it’s possible or how it would work, just curious.
It probably would work if you had a large enough pool of people, but how much bigger can you get than if 300 million people were pooled together and collectively they negotiated rates on drugs and doctor visits? Thus the ultimate idea of some form of universal coverage.
Where your idea kind of falls apart is that you need someone to manage all this. Good luck getting Kenny in apartment 5D to take care of this when he can’t even turn the volume of his TV down after 10 PM. But I think obama care kind of does this on a state level. I could be wrong, but I think that’s what the various marketplaces they talk about are. But each state manages it differently. Not shockingly, red states tend to mismanage things and offer worse services than blue states. In the end it is all a crutch. This should be on a national level like every other industrialized nation offers.
This should be on a national level like every other industrialized nation offers.
No disagreement there! Only comment is that Kenny in 5D can’t possibly be worse than Carol in HR lol
Kenny in 5D actually died 2 weeks ago but his body hasn’t decomposed yet because he has his AC set for 65 degrees. Eventually it will stink up the place and force Tom in 4D to relocate for 3 weeks as his apartment is cleaned up after Kenny in 5D’s body liquefied and soaks through the floor and into Tom in 4D’s ceiling.
If only Kenny had managed their HOA health plan and gone to see his doctor in time.
Poor Kenny in 5D. RIPeace
“Where your idea kind of falls apart is that you need someone to manage all this”
This is nearly nonsensical. It’s not a completely fleshed out idea, but just because the commenter hasn’t named a possible manager doesn’t mean it’s bad.
You think anybody is gonna make the perfect proposal to solve our problems in 50 words or less?
Back in his heyday Kenny in 5D could have. But not after his divorce. That really broke him. He missed his kids, but that bitch of an ex wife wouldn’t let him see them. He was just a shell of a man after that. Of course now Kenny in 5D is dead. Rest in peace, Kenny in 5D.
But what about my badge of honor for finally getting a job with good benefits!?
This strikes me as a “you will own nothing and be happy” solution. Instead of paying workers a fair wage so they can put something into savings for a rainy day, you will be at the mercy of your employer for support.
This seems to be the trend. In the future, you will have most of your needs at least met, but not through your own means, because you will have no means whatsoever. You will not be able to take care of yourself without your corporation parent. This is a very coercive situation.
I’m not doing well healthwise right now and my employers told me that they were concerned about my health and I could take as many unpaid sick days as I want.
America’s attitude towards healthcare is completely backasswards
Living as a Service
Please tell me the TDLR is a pizza party!
this would be very helpful during the times where the $500 emergency is the need for a pizza party
And those of us who have it relatively easy, have to live with the guilt of telling all our family members no all the fucking time.
If you’re family is constantly asking for money then they are shitty.
That’s a pretty big blanket sentiment, I have some family who would absolutely do this but some of them literally have no other options, it sucks but it’s how life is
It depends on why they’re asking. If they’re asking because they’re irresponsible, that’s one thing. If they’re asking because they are legitimately struggling against systemic issues, then it’s another.
Life is a lot more complicated than you’re implying, and family should be there to support each other.
Then again, so should society in general. Life should be challenging, but it shouldn’t be so hard that it’s impossible for so many people just to get by.
May I ask why you think life should be challenging?
Keep in mind that I said “challenging” not “difficult”.
But a challenge gives a person something to strive for. Motivation to be something greater. But I also believe the people should have all the support and encouragement they need to meet that challenge as well as all of the support they need should they fail— even if they fail repeatedly.
Because a system where people can avoid working would be bad for the economy. The government needs people to be able to pay a lot of taxes to afford things like the military. The whole system would collapse if some people could choose to have an easy life with a stable low income and not work
Sometimes that irresponsibility is a systemic issue. Low income home life leads to lack of education, drug addiction, crime, etc.
Some people wouldn’t know what to do with money even if they had it.
That’s right on all points.
And a society as rich and advanced as ours should be there to support people in all cases. In the highest of highs, to help them responsibly manage their money, and the lowest of lows to help put their lives back together when they fail.
Agreed.
Or dying
Or desperate
The first change made it so employees may save up to $2,500 in after-tax money in a separate account alongside their retirement accounts. Workers would potentially be automatically enrolled in the programs, which would defer the money automatically through payroll deductions.
Read: banks lobby to get money automatically deposited into their specific accounts so they can generate interest from it the employees will never see, and make it more difficult for employees to actually get their money
Me, looking at a $500 dentist bill for a crown because teeth are luxury bones: Yeah……fuck.
Me looking at my $500 monthly federal student loan payment.
Me struggling every month trying not to think about the unpause
I had a root canal and crown, $2k. I’m financing a tooth now.
My dad needed $20,000 worth of dental work. So they took a trip to Costa Rica for maybe $3k-5k and got the dental work done for free. Because Costa Rica gives free healthcare, including dental, to anyone in its borders. And they got a good vacation out of it.
They could afford to do that though. Most people couldn’t.
Your crown was only 500!?!
Ah yes, the time proven effective strategy to get the poor back on board the against-their-own-interests train:
"Unchecked Capitalism will save you from the problems that Unchecked Capitalism directly caused!" 🤣
If that sounds reasonable, here’s a solution for climate change: lets double the amount of carbon shit we’re pumping into the air. Fuck it, double or nothing!
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Fuck employers, everything is TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE
Wage increases are getting blown out of the water by inflation and cost of living. Everyone is really starting to feel that pinch. So naturally now is when the feds decide to unfreeze school loans. Really telling of how out of touch our government is
That’s not true, median wage up on an inflation-adjusted basis
Oh, uh, there were hurricanes.
Supply chain.
You understand.
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63% of workers unable to pay a $500 emergency expense, survey finds. How employers may help change that
They will make it 83%
Or they may think that those workers being able to maybe pay < $500 in an emergency is a money-making opportunity…
Pizza party in the conference room.
people will worry so much about this but will elect the same people over and over again to lead based on shirt color just because they change the shirt to red or blue same clothing factory
maybe younger people from a new political party might be able to help or rioting in the streets or something
So not only are employees getting raped by 401Ks and HSAs but a 3rd time with this new Emergency Savings Account. Why the fuck dont they just pay us more?
Maybe the government should just stop taking so much off your pay cheque
You are aware there are several nations with higher taxes right? Its not a tax issue. Its a cost of other things thats a major issue. If low income people are still struggling after gettting their refund during tax prep, its not an income tax problem.
Especially given that the article mentions miami, and florida is in like the bottom 5 in income taxes
I’d like to know when “State and Federal taxes” worked 6 hours of my shift because I can’t remember.
Sometimes it goes into things people dont care about, and other times it goes into things people take for granted.
For example, if you took a road to work today, that road didnt pay for itself.
A lot of people who pay $20-30k+ a year in taxes are also struggling.
Mortgages have gone up, milk has gone up, eggs are too expensive, a lot of countries (like Canada, where I live) are increasing carbon taxes. Gas is already $1.70 a litre!
Wages are one thing, but how many people can just swallow a mortgage payment that increase $500-$700 a month?
I get it, you want to make more money, but something the government can actually do is let you keep more of the money you do actually earn.
Are the people paying 20k-30k the people who cant afford the 500$ emergency spending though. Not saying there aren’t any (as someone might have a ridiculous amount of debt) but those making that much are way more likely to afford the 500$ emergency fund than the low income who almost pay no income tax in the first place (no federal, as thats returned in the form of a refund, and variable state based on state.)
Changing icome tax doesnt adresss the majority of people who have the problem the post is about. Theres already like 8(?) States without income tax
You have to understand how expensive it is supporting a family right now. People are spending an insane amount of money on groceries alone. $1,000 - $1,800 a month
The gas to get to work for a two income household could be upwards of $1,000 a month.
Mortgage renewal? Hope you have an extra $700 a month laying around.
Cad payments? Ya that’s going to add another $200-$300 a month in interest payments alone now.
And forget it if you have kids. Daycare, physical activities, summer camp? Maybe another $12k per year depending on how many kids you have!
The issue here is that the middle class are also being destroyed and without them there’s no money to even give to the government to help lower income people.
In Canada, $150k a year for a family of 5 is low income now.
At least lower income people get subsidized food and housing. Middle class? They get 20% interest on credit cards to keep afloat.
This isn’t about wages, it’s about costs. All of them of which taxes are just one. A big one, but just one.
You can attack the corpo’s later, right now the fight is with the government to get the money going out under control.
You can get a 50% raise, but if you’re still spending 70% more to eat and have a roof over your head, it doesn’t really matter does it?
If shit was more affordable, maybe $40k a year could be a livable wage again. Cause right now it’s not.
So your answer to fixing a problem is lowering imcome tax? A solution that doesnt even fix the problem for the target audience in the first place. Its nonsensical to completely ignore the likely largest group of people that need the help.
The people who have debt in mortgages is based on what kind of home they bought. Its an opportunity cost on why they chose x home over what might have been the cheapest home they could have bought (not saying that there arent people who just buys the cheapest home possible in an area, but they arent likely the majoirty). The person who has a mortgage at least has a house, the people that cant afford the 500 month to month emergency fund likely has nothing.
I wont even get to the point where its the people who have houses are the ones making it harder for more houses to get built because they want to maintain the value of their house at the cost of those who have not.
So what I hear you saying is that families with homes should just lose their homes because funding the government is more important? And they should have thought of that before buying a home?
Are you a fucking idiot?
Let’s just make MORE poverty stricken people, the government comes before all! It sounds like you just want everyone to hand over their pay cheques to the government so they can decide who gets what and when they get it, so we can all be totally fucked.
This Lemmy crowd is filled with morons.
The gas to get to work for a two income household could be upwards of $1,000 a month.
What are you driving, two Escalades?
Our taxes aren’t even that high. Look at what people used to pay up until the 80’s. We should go back to where we actually taxed millionaires and corporations instead of coming up with yet another tax haven account for them. Regular people can’t contribute to these things because they don’t have the disposable income. They are meant for the rich with some bullshit excuse to make us feel good.
I pay 30% of every dollar I make and I also pay another 18% or so every time I spend a dollar directly to the government.
And the prices of EVERYTHING has Skyrocketed!
When prices go up, the goods and services taxes you pay also go up. When prices go down, they go down too.
Interest rates are killing people, prices are killing people, taxes on top of taxes are killing people
Yes, lets destroy the commons even more. /s
It’s okay that you’ll lose your house, because there are people without houses.
Perfect retarded communist point of view. Let’s just make everyone poor, then we can just change the definition of what poor is
Just don’t call me a capitalist, or I might take offense.
I don’t think I would ever mistake you for a capitalist
Thanks!
