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    It’s not about the gays vs straights or blacks vs whites or the Romulans vs The Federation. It’s about the billionaires vs everybody else. It’s a class war. It aways has been. And life is never going to improve for most of us until we figure out where the REAL source of our pain comes from. Like George Carlin once said:

    “That’s the way the ruling class works in any society. They keep the lower and middle classes fighting with each other so that they . . . the rich . . . can run off with all the f*cking money.”

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      Why do you stop at billionaires, and not include the politicians and the people that hold power?

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        Politicians are part of the state, which is shaped by the economic system which, in most of the world, is currently capitalism.

        The root of the problem is class society and the capitalist system where the ruling class are the capitalists. So it doesn’t really matter who the politicians are until the economic system, and thus the ruling class, are changed, which can only happen by organizing outside the capitalist political system whose only purpose is to protect capital.

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      I think, on average, we’re too dumb as a species to keep it in mind. I would hate to say we deserve the system we’ve got, but here we are.

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      And life is never going to improve for most of us until we figure out where the REAL source of our pain comes from

      Yeah! Consensus reality!

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    My dad once told me my mom didnt feel safe walking alone at night in the neighborhood and asked if I felt the same. I said I didnt feel any concerns, but added the caveat that Im not a small woman, and Im a large man.

    He paused for a minute, nodded and said “that makes sense.” Then after another few seconds goes “That’s not white privilege.”

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        He saw himself having an epiphany about privilege in general, so he had to swerve and add race into the mix so he could say a true (albeit unrelated) thing and miss the point.

        It’s like when anti BLM people say “All lives matter” … Sure, all lives DO matter, but they’re intentionally missing the point, so they don’t have to acknowledge that police brutality disproportionately affects black lives.

        Saying unrelated “true” things to undermine the original statement is a bit telling about intentions.

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          And that would be white privilege. I’m not sure what you’re trying to convey here.

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      Reminds me of my white dad talking to a friend of my brother’s who’s black about how he feels when a cop is around. “Not that different, maybe a little safer.” And the friend said he has to be very careful about everything he does in that situation. My dad’s not a conservative type, thank god, so hopefully it gave him some insight.

      A few years ago, some cops were in my neighborhood looking for someone while I was sitting in my car. One ducked his head down to look at me and quickly left. I was VERY aware that my skin color might have just saved my life.

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        Living in multinational country I can say noone feels safe around police.

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    When they’re talking about big pharma and other companies controlling peoples lives and how the people that control them conspire to keep the rest of us in line… Then start talking about Jews…

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      I mean marx also talks about the Jews and the Christians. I thought the position was that religion helps reinforce class society.

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        He more talked about Judaism and Christianity, but it was relatively minor compared to actual class analysis and additionally was most famously brought up as a response to antisemetic bullshit that supported the false idea that Jewish people were controlling all of the banks and all of the money and were the source of all problems.

        Marx spoke of Religion as a component of classism, not as a replacement for it, unlike what modern anti-semites do.

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          I was told marx was an antisemite. That’s what people say about leftists in general it seems.

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            Marx was Jewish himself, and wrote a fiery response against an antisemetic piece. He advocated for Jewish liberation.

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                Read Marx’s On the Jewish Question. It’s a response to the extremely anti-semetic The Jewish Question, and Marx basically goes through all of its bullshit and concludes that while religion is used by Capitalism to reinforce itself, he advocates for emancipation of religious people themselves. He was an atheist of Jewish descent.

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      It doesn’t quell it. It redirects it. All of the negativity and animosity still exist in the world, but now it’s aimed at the wrong target.

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        but now it’s aimed at the wrong target.

        this is such a classic move that I’m amazed we still fall for it in current_year

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    Occupy scared the shit out of bankers. It’s no mistake that pop culture became obsessed with divisive issues immediately afterwards.

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    Europeans think racism is stupid, but then bring out the hitler energy for Romani.