“Whether you like it, or not, history is on our side. We will bury you,” he said quoting former USSR leader Nikita Khrushchev.

Russian politician Dmitry Medvedev said on Tuesday Russia could have a right to go to war with NATO.

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    I wonder… does medvedev have enough wits left to understand that if Russia has that right… then everyone … has that right?

    They’re finding Ukraine difficult enough. Sure we’re sharing some toys (a lot of toys)… but they don’t have carriers or attack subs or missile destroyers…

    Threatening nato is not a sane decision to make. We might just take them at their word.

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      The toys we’re sharing are our older toys from the 80s and 90s even. Its not even the more deadly stuff we have…and they’re fighting against a force that’s getting a few weeks training on these toys and sent out into the field. If russia truly wants a 72 hour war…all it would need to do is attack NATO.

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          It’s not the war, it’s the keeping.

          In any case, we’d probably bog down around the same time China and everyone else on that side got involved. I don’t think it would be as clean or as quick. But, yeah. We could definitely screw them pretty harshly without ever landing troops

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            China and Russia have no military alliance, Xi is just taking advantage of the fantastic business opportunity that opened up for him for cheap Russian imports. If Chinese troops became militarily involved in Russian territory, it would probably be to acquire their claims over eastern Siberia, dating back to the Qing Dynasty. Otherwise he’s just be supporting a state that competes with him for the dominant regional position.

            The Tsar took that land from them, back in the day though. If you look at their current claimed territories, they never forgot. Maybe if Russia agreed to become a subject state of China, then they’d help militarily, but they’re certainly not friends or allies.

            Russia does have actual allies, but not many. And China isn’t one of them.

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        Or the big guns. If they start attacking the nuclear powers, things are going to get very spicy very quickly.

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      America is not giving Ukraine the most advanced weapons and that is stopping Russia.

      Imagine if America used their pre advanced weapons.

      It’s posturing. Russia wants to look tough. They’re a paper tiger.

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      Russia is the irritating kid down the street who just broke his nerf gun so he’s threatening to throw the darts at you instead and tell his mom you’re not invited to his birthday party…

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    The second greatest army in Ukraine wants to mess with Nato? LOL

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    War has fuck-all to do with rights. If you’re going to attack a NATO country we will beat your ass back into the stone age without mercy, your nukes won’t save you if you dare cross that line.

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      No but they’ll sure kill a lot of us, whichever ones still fire and hit their marks at least. Who’s to say if they’ve maintained their stock over the decades.

      And the citizens will be told the whole time about how it’s some plot to destroy them as people, to stoke the flames.

      An actual war with Russia wouldn’t end well for anyone short of having an internal coup with an actual plan for government afterwards instead of this slow handoff of power from one authoritarian dictator to the next.

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        an actual war with russia wont end well for russia, thats about it. even russia isnt dumb enough to try nuclear war

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          Don’t confuse the requirement of lack of intelligence with the willingness of a person willing to drag the world to hell as they’re being taken down.

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    I mean… he’s not wrong? They could have a war with NATO any time they wanted it. Russia could have war with NATO whenever they want it. They’ve been very careful to not actually DO that, of course. Last thing they need is to start losing another one with someone who won’t have any difficulty in bringing the full conflict right to them.

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    Nobody is stopping them from exercising that right against any NATO country. What about Poland? They have been a historical nuisance, Dimi. Just shoot a rocket at a farm somewhere, but make it intentional this time.

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      “Mister Krushchev said, “We will bury you” I don’t subscribe to this point of view It’d be such an ignorant thing to do If the Russians love their children too”

      -Sting

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    I mean… I can’t see any issue with NATO not stopping Ukraine from invading its own territory… the territory the UN recognizes as part of Ukraine… and which Russia signed three separate treaties promising to respect as part of Ukraine.

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      Oh don’t bother. Medvedev is a joke. Always has been. I tell you this as a Russian.

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      You know, it makes me wonder if we’d even need troops in the conflict zone. We probably can use drones and satellite to find the enemy, then use drones to elimate them. It’s not asymmetrical warfare like Afghanistan or Iraq.

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    Oh no, we’re all gonna be totally dead in 3 days. Remember how they took Kiev in 3 days? Flawlessly.