I have a couple of home server, both with Proxmox as hypervisor, one VM with Ubuntu 22.04 that does just Docker containers, one with Open Media Vault, one with Home Assistant (HA OS) and a couple of Windows VM to do some tests. Since I wanted to move from OMV, right now I see 2 options:

  • stay with Proxmox and find another NAS OS
  • use Unraid as NAS and hypervisor

What other option would you suggest?

  • thejevans@lemmy.mlEnglish
    11·
    10 months ago

    I use proxmox with truenas scale. It’s a great option, but you just have to make sure to pass the hdd controller PCI device through to the VM. This can either be the SATA controller on the motherboard if you can make that work, or a separate PCIe HBA.

    • peregus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Should I pass the whole controller? I have the Proxmox disk on the same controller, how do I do that?

    • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
      11·
      10 months ago

      What’s the advantage to using proxmox and virtualizing TrueNAS in your use case?

      I’m looking to setup a TrueNAS box mostly as a file server (I have a bunch of spare drives sitting around, so I can duplicate locally and then backup to a cloud provider), but also as a docker host.

      (I’m also researching some setups for friends businesses with the VMware debacle - they have a year to migrate).

      • thejevans@lemmy.mlEnglish
        6·
        10 months ago

        I have a lot of services. I use Ansible to manage many of them, so they’re all in one VM. I use Home Assistant, which works best when installed as a whole VM or on bare metal. For the remaining services that I have yet to set up with Ansible, I keep the services that need the GPU on one VM, and everything else on another. Finally, I have an LXC container that is my SSH entrypoint and Ansible management system.

        I could technically use TrueNAS Scale as a hypervisor for all this, but Proxmox has a lot of quality-of-life features that make it a better hypervisor. I could use Proxmox for ZFS and shares, but TrueNAS has has a lot of quality-of-life features that make it a much better NAS, so I virtualize it.

        • BearOfaTime@lemm.eeEnglish
          11·
          10 months ago

          Neat, thanks for the info.

          Guess I need to read up on what Proxmox offers - I was focusing on TrueNAS as a simple all-on one, maybe Proxmox has something for me.

  • anamethatisnt@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    10 months ago

    Running a Debian Bookworm hypervisor using KVM/QEMU with virt-manager for vms + Incus for lxc containers gives you a lot of freedom with how you use it.

    edit: It also means you build your own hypervisor from parts - kinda like installing postfix/dovecot/mariadb/spamassassin instead of a packaged solution like mail-in-a-box. It takes more time and effort but I find I understand the underlying technologies better afterwards.

    • peregus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      2·
      10 months ago

      That’s something I like, just plain Debian with KVM. How is virt-manager compared to the Proxmox UI? Does it needs to be installed on a separate PC (Windows?)?

  • ikidd@lemmy.worldEnglish
    6·
    10 months ago

    While you can do a lot of the stuff that PM does via Unraid and other tools, it’s all there in one spot. I love taking snapshots before upgrades, migrating machines between nodes live while I upgrade the nodes, having HA for my OPNsense and other important boxes, and the PBS backup system. I know you could do all this with other tools, but it’s damn convenient in PM and “just works”.

    You can install a NAS vm in PM, just give it raw access to the disks you’re looking to use for data, and back them up independently. Don’t try to do something like overlay ZFS on ZFS.

    • kalpol@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      10 months ago

      Yeah I experimented with Truenas in a VM, it randomly dropped the pool. Do not do this.

  • denshirenji@lemmy.worldEnglish
    5·
    10 months ago

    For the hypervisor I recommend either Proxmox or XCP-ng. XCP-ng is technically a better hypervisor, but I personally use Proxmox because I like the UI.

    For the NAS OS, I use and recommend TrueNAS Scale. You can run Docker containers on it. All this being said, I’ve never used Unsaid so I don’t know how they compare.

    Out of curiosity, why move from OMV? I was thinking about trying it out for a second NAS.

    • peregus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
      3·
      10 months ago

      Out of curiosity, why move from OMV? I was thinking about trying it out for a second NAS.

      It’s probably a problem of not dedicating enough time to learn how it works, but I’ve installed a couple of time in the past years, but…I don’t like it much. It seems complicated to me (still, I probably don’t dedicate it enough time).

      For the NAS OS, I use and recommend TrueNAS Scale. You can run Docker containers on it

      I’ll check it, thanks

      • denshirenji@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        10 months ago

        Your reason to move from OMV is the same as mine for XCP-ng. It is supposed to be a better hypervisor, but I just did not like the UI at all. It doesn’t help that you have to host a small VM just to have a webGUI.

        • jkrtn@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          10 months ago

          I had to build that small VM from source on a different machine because my XCP-ng install was refusing to set it up. Then I was able to move it over to the XCP-ng machine to self host.

          I liked the UI and honestly I like the VM that keeps the web app separate from the hypervisor. But then it started looking like a massive pain to hotplug USB devices to the VMs, so I bounced.

          I am trying Incus/LXD right now and enjoying it so far.