Happened to me a few days ago, and I just can’t believe how bad this redesign is!!
It’s hard to comprehend what goes into the heads of that dev team, but they basically ruined everything nice about the platform. The API changes were pretty much a fatal shot already, but this new redesign seems to be what tipped the scales for me, and hopefully many more.
It’s a great time to switch to Lemmy, and I think I’m going to make the effort to stick around and abandon the habit of opening reddit multiple times per day.
Do you think forcing this re-design will bring more people here? I’m hoping for that. Reddit betrayed us and I can’t find it me to keep forgiving them for every horrible, anti-user decision.
I noticed in some moderator subreddit, that it is planned to kill new.reddit.com as well. Old will likely stay for longer, but new is what I got used to, and if they take it down I won’t bother getting used to the newer, garbage UX.
Lemmy users talking to Reddit users.
The hurdle is content. Lemmy has an overflow of politics and mindless memes, but it needs to have more content beyond that to attract people in.
Everyone who wants Lemmy to succeed should give redditors a reason to stay by posting in some of the smaller and more niche communities.
Yet without an audience, it’s just people posting into the void.
I think we need to accept that we aren’t going to become Reddit pt. 2 anytime soon. Smaller steps might be a good way to go - e.g. if a small sub dedicated to a single game is too small, then post in a medium level one like its genre.
But also, the main reason I stopped recommending the Fediverse to people - well aside from the fact that nobody was listening:-P - wasn’t just lack of content, and instead mainly bc there are so very many technical glitches. I eventually left Kbin entirely bc it never seemed to progress anywhere, but everywhere I’ve gone on Lemmy, while it has been better, is still far from perfect. For instance, I have to re-login every single time I come here - even on the same day, and sometimes also just randomly while browsing, both mobile browser and also desktop.
We who are here are okay that it is alpha version software, but the kind of people on Reddit who have remained are not. Consent matters: we haven’t enticed them here, and we need to be okay with that, or else do a LOT better job trying - which will take time and effort, which is underway - and either way it would help to accept the situation as it is not just how we might dream that it could be otherwise.
Chicken and the egg. Nobody is posting or commenting because nobody is posting or commenting.
I’ve decided to ignore waiting for others to post and just post. Some communities I’ve done this in are still voids. Others have actually come to life somewhat. Still slow, but at least other people are now consistently engaging.
That’s what I was suggesting yeah:-). That’s awesome that you are following through, and hey if it is working then that’s the proof!:-P
I would presume that it is attracting existing Lemmies to those new communities (well, new-to-them, or at least far healthier than the used to be), though my point about technical issues applies more to people who remained on Reddit. Especially those who already tried Lemmy but didn’t like it and thus left, which could be for both reasons - lack of content and technical capabilities.
The one thing I have noticed is the proliferation of overly niche communities rather than congregating in larger hubs and then organizing into smaller communities as the userbase scales.
I do believe that was an early mistake made throughout the platform.
Since it is functionally unreversible, my personal solution has been to try and make networks of these communities by encouraging sidebars to reference each other, share mods, and partake in cross posting.
How about not attacking people who express a liking for Windows?
I’m more of a doors person, myself.
Reddit has zero content. Lemmy has zero content. Only people.
It’s worse than that. The politics is a far left echo chamber which appeals to a small number of chronically online but repels everyone else.
Lemmy is not much farther left than reddit is.
Also the younger generations who spend more time on these sites lean left to begin with. They aren’t going to be repelled by people shitting on Biden.
Monthly active users are 35% lower than July last year when Reddit turned off the external API. Just 42,188 now. Since then there are 45% fewer servers online. Average comments per month are up, which means fewer and fewer people are posting more and more. This is the definition of an online circlejerk. I’m glad you like it this way but normal people do not, and these stats will only get worse in time.
MAUs are counted by commenters and posters. The stats could just as well show that there are fewer people engaging for the sake of engagement, which was a huge problem last summer.
I am a leftist who participated on Reddit for more than a decade without any issues, and I catch bans on Lemmy for not being “left” enough. The politics on Lemmy are so far outside anything resembling mainstream, you get bans for daring to quote Jacobin or the fucking internationale.
From where I am standing, as someone who has actually studied political science, Lemmy looks a lot more like right wing trolls pretending to be leftists
I don’t like Trump at all and not a fan of Biden but there are lots of vicious comments to the point where I have felt tempted to just skip the comments on political posts.
I’m right there with you. This is even more toxic than Reddit.
The redesign was garbage ux from the start and they ignored absolutely all feedback for years. It was fundamentally flawed from the very beginning and they buried their heads in the sand because they knew most people would still use it.
Most people seemed to use the official app anyway, which is even worse, so I don’t see many people changing over this. I was one of the people who said when old Reddit was gone so was I, I just didn’t expect them to do something worse before that time came.
Won’t change much. Look at OP, complaining about the betrayal and going back several times a day. Old habits are hard to break.
When RiF broke I never went back, i need lemmy to prosper or I will be out of doomscrolling app
Honestly I kind of like that lemmy has less content at the moment. When I’ve seen everything I’m interested in I close it and do something else, rather than doing nothing but scroll.
Though I do miss the long format text stuff a bit.
What app do you use to browse on mobile? I’m using Memmy but had trouble posting.
I’m using Jerboa, it’s not perfect but I’m too lazy to change lmao
It’s not habit, it’s that there are many things on Reddit that are not on Lemmy in any meaningful sense yet. I use reddit for those communities that don’t exist here and I don’t feel like quitting, but Lemmy gets my full attention for everything else.
Using both platforms at once is more about necessity and patience. Lemmy will grow, I’m certain of that, but I’m not going to pretend it’s anywhere near active enough yet to fully replace every aspect of reddit. It will, but it isn’t there yet.
Same. I tried to quit (and even deleted my account) but realized that the Lemmy equivalent of my home city community isn’t yet on here (and there’s also a buy nothing subreddit that’s been helpful for getting baby stuff). I use RedReader and I’m only subscribed to three local subreddits.
Their motto seems to consistently be: “Drive out the old users who remember what we used to be. Rein in the new users who embrace the enshitification and change from content aggregation to social media”
Reddit is a dogshow but Lenny has issues too.
Maybe it’s my instance or some other config but when I open lennmy it’s just wall to wall communist/anti capitalist, open source wanking and musk hate.
Look, people, musk is a cunt, capitalism is ruining not only the planet but yes also the hearts and minds of people and proprietary software probably should be a little less pervasive than what it is but can we, just for one fucking nano second discuss literally anythingbg else?
In my experience (and again perhaps just with whatever I’ve been able to set up) lemmy is tiresome, parochial and very much a one-dimensional experience.
Can any of us remember when Reddit was actually fun? A little of the silliness that made it endearing? Dumb stories about Kevin, incessant nonsense about bacon, when AMA was a fucking legendary little nook of the internet? Surely some of those are the things this community would want to foster, a little light heartedness? Look at the popularity of the Trekkie stuff, nothing to learn there?
It’s cool though, I don’t have to come here and this has all helped me realise that. I’m literally only on here typing this because I’m taking a dump rn.
:)
All your comments are on gay porn my guy.
Hey, 20 bucks is 20 bucks.
I would truly like Lemmy if there were social communities like in reddit instead of what you just described. 2something4you, fantasy, hfy, roleplaying, cats, yurop, etc etc. We need all of that fun stuff
All of those things exist here. I feel like you guys haven’t explored other instances maybe because while the parent commenter is right, there is a lot of the topics they’re tired of, there’s plenty of other stuff. And there’s plenty of fantasy, role playing, cats, there are a few 2[blank]4you spots.
i just use the Everything option in Sync. I expect it to just bring ‘everything’ available in lemmy
Me too. I spent 8 months blocking communities and it’s starting to get bearable.
I’ve tried roleplaying on Reddit before but I could never get the format of it. just feels really weird rping on a thread with multiple nested posts instead of one constant scroll. I feel like discord is better for RP
Nope. Sorry. Best I can do is 700 Linux communities
There is [email protected] and a good number of DND and TTRPG communities.
Dude, yesterday was the Superbowl and there was no thread for it (other than one hating on it) on the front page of Lemmy. That was a depressing realization to me.
It’s not mainstream, not even close. It literally is what you said and some memes. Maybe one day it’ll have a better breadth of content. Reddit content right now is much better to the general user.
Also taking a dump rn.
At first, I registered on Lemmy.world but, after a while, it was unbearable. Sometimes I couldn’t log in because the servers were overloaded, sometimes because they were updating. When they decided to defederate certain instances, I went to eslemmy…until it disappeared without warning. I had the same luck with firefish.social. I signed up to try it out, it looked promising, but it was very slow. Now it’s dead too.
For me, Lemmy was not yet ready for the amount of users coming from Reddit.
The redesign would be bad if considerably improved. Because as it is now, it’s simply awful.
Things that they did not get:
- People might not like a crammed interface, but they certainly don’t like to unnecessarily roll stuff.
- Desktops typically have a horizontal screen. Vertical space is at premium, but horizontal space is cheap. That leads to “stripes” of content, not to square blocks.
- “Muh consisrency! Mobile n desktop inrurrfaces must look teh same!” leads to either a shitty mobile interface, a shitty desktop interface, or both. Never neither.
- If you can guess that a user is using a desktop interface (YES YOU CAN, you spam the shit out of the users if they dare to use the mobile interface), then you can also guess that desktop users won’t “download your appz XD”.
- Everything else.
Why is anyone here still using reddit? What’s the point of not using reddit anymore if you still use reddit? Whats the point in saying fuck u/spez if you keep using reddit?
I’ve been exclusively on lemmy since the reddit blackout, and it’s been great.
Just give reddit up my dudes. Its shit
Just give reddit up my dudes.
Aren’t you subscribed to this community? , 🤔
Oh! I am. If i recall, i moved to lemmy and subbed to this community when reddit went dark to keep in the loop on how the protests were going and if there had been any real impact on reddit overall. I guess i never unsubbed.
Either way, it doesn’t change anything i said.
If anything it juat raises the question of what the purpose of this community is. Is it reddit recon, is it a space to point and laugh at rhe choices reddit makes, or is it a place for those who can’t let go to cling to the past?
Any time Reddit makes a stumble is likely to generate at least a small exodus looking for alternatives. This is an example of such a moment.
In order to keep those users on Lemmy it needs to have activity. A community with no posts or only ancient posts is not attractive. Yes, Lemmy has politics and memes, but it needs more activity in other types of communities. People say as much constantly and it is obvious.
If you want Lemmy to thrive then I highly suggest you post in communities relevant to your interests.
It would also be nice if some of the largest instances didn’t ban people for not thinking Mao Zedong was a good dude.
The Old Reddit Redirect addon for Firefox still works.
The day that breaks, is the day when I finally come to the realization that I will have to find someplace else for niche content that isn’t available here. I’m not so sure that such a website exists. Reddit killed off all the competition.
Wait, there’s a newer redisgn than new?
You should be able to see it if you open reddit in incognito without logging in: https://reddit.com/
Looking more and more like the current version of digg.com.
This is why we teach history, kids.
…: there’s a redesign? I’m still using old Reddit. New Reddit was always shit.
They redesigned the site again? old.reddit.com was literally the only usable design. No avatars, no ridiculous amounts of padding, no broken search results, no forced sign-in for NSFW-marked content.
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Many won’t leave no matter what happens.
Some have left already.
Everyone else is somewhere in-between.
I don’t see /r/windows10 and/r/windows11 doing that well here.
Oh no.
I actually like the new new Reddit more than the new Reddit that preceded it. Maybe an unpopular opinion. Although I haven’t had time to use it that much yet.
Yeah sh.reddit.com is a good name for the new new design. I couldn’t fucking believe how bad it is and now opt out! There is an reddit-redirect browser addon to redirect to new.reddit. Reddit-enhancer is also working on improving the new “tik-tokified” UI. My guess we’ll see more expansive and transformative browser addons instead of clients.
