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Google’s ranking algorithms are also to blame. If you publish anything on a new website it will take you eternity to rank up against copycat sites and websites that have nothing to do with the search query, they will outrank your publication just because their websites have had 5+ more years presence than you, have paid their way through the ranker, and their article has only one of the six keywords mentioned in the search query but isn’t relevant to the whole search query, your article will linger on page 10. you will put 5 times more work to move your post to the 9th page than the time it took you to research and write the post.
google has shaped the internet into what American democracy is, those with more money get more exposure
I don’t have an Instagram, a YouTube, Facebook, or Twitter account, and I still hate Google search. It’s nearly useless unless I’m specifically trying to find something to purchase.
It’s not about what you as the searcher has. It’s about where the content you’re searching for is located. If the entity or company you’re searching for has only published within walled gardens such as Instagram or Facebook, then you are less likely to successfully find that information in Google. If they had published a normal website, then Google would be better able to index that information and provide you the result you want.
I feel that, but also, the content I am looking for is indeed typically posted on regular websites without walled gardens, and Google still seems to want to show me a whole page of garbage before the site I’m looking for, whereas on DuckDuckGo(bing), my desired sites are usually the first or second result. Google is better if I’m looking to buy something, or find local restaurants etc, but ddg gives me better results in my academic and flight of fancy searches.
I just hate the google search UI 😊 but of course this is not the only reason that DDGO is my default private and bing my default while working. We are a full on Microsoft software company with all the teams stuff etc. So using bing allows to search not only in the internet, but in the company SharePoints as well.
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It’s even bad for finding something to purchase honestly. I’ll search for a specific part number, and most of the results are other similar but not interchangeable products. No Google I cannot just shove this random other battery pack into my UPS, but thanks anyway.
I tried searching for airtight drawers and all the results were either airtight or drawers. Only one was both and it was a ten thousand dollar museum specimen cabinet.
It’s especially terrible if you care about the fiber content of your clothes. Searching for linen or even 100% linen gets me linen blend, linen-look, linen color. 100% wool gets mostly acrylic wool blends. Wool toe socks gets me either wool socks or toe socks but again, not both.
Plus I can’t block Amazon and Walmart from the results anymore, so that’s a ton of extra junk to filter through manually.
Oh, you’re looking for a part number for something relatively common? No can do. However, I’m sure you’d be interested in pages of Chinese phone numbers that carry 3 digits in a similar order to your search.
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DuckDuckGo is the same. I searched for “ham and cheese recipe” and Yummly is the top result.
My top result is tasteofhome.com.
I like Google products but the search engine really has become shit. I’m not sure there’s anything they can do about it though.
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They simply need to change the way relevancy is measured. They need to implement some mechanism that can evaluate the quality of the page. The algorithm should penalize sites that have content very similar to other sites (like those that scrape github or stackoverflow), low effort sites, or sites that are infested with too many ads.
And since so much quality information is in youtube videos, and they already generate transcripts, why can’t you search through those?
Any metric that isn’t direct human curation can be gamed.
Just out of curiosity what google products do you use?
Most of the big ones. Gmail, calendar, maps, YouTube, YouTube music, photos, tasks, pixel…
It’s more interesting to say the ones I don’t use tbh: Drive and Chrome.
The only REAL replacement I’m still looking for is YouTube. Sure, Peertube and proxy sites for YouTube exist. But the amount of content I am interested in is by dozens of decimals larger an YouTube than on any other alternative combined.
And, yes, of course, the search engine.
I hope alternatives to youtube like Nebula and peertube find their footing, but I can’t help but suspect that youtube has and will continue to find the successful path in this social media era. I’m not a youtuber or anything, so I don’t really know any details about how it works, but the way they seem provide a platform with monetisation and brand building possibilities built in seems pretty effective/pragmatic for a platform that needs to find someway to work within capitalism.
Try Nebula! It’s a bunch of YouTube creators who got together to make their own platform for video content. The price is quite reasonable and the videos are the same you would see on YouTube but often a few days early and with the sponsorship ads removed.
Nebula is excellent! If you have more money, you can try Floatplane too.
I would rather not support Linus.
Just use duck duck go. Its better in all regards.
I truly wish this was true. But for work, everything I search on ddg is just not useful
Duck Duck Go has been nothing but great since I switched a few months ago. It’s like Google from 10 years ago.
If I need to find really obscure stuff Google is still better.
I avoid Google products as much as possible these days, especially anything launched within the last 2-3 years, because it will soon be abandoned and unsupported. Their search results are worse than they have ever been. The only Google app I actually like is Google Maps.
Maps isn’t doing too hot either.
translation: Google Search is still an important tool, but it is no longer the only way people find information.
I wish. Unfortunately it will probably live on for all eternity like Facebook is somehow living on.
It’s no surprise that Facebook is hanging on, the average nerd might avoid it like the plague but the average person doesn’t care
We had some good variety of search engines back in the day. Alta vista, Hotbot, Infoseek, Yahoo… Now it’s just Google, or slightly worse versions.
I know people say to use DuckDuckGo but I never get as useful results there as on Google. I just have to scroll past a lot more ads on Google to get to the actual links.
The fact you’re saying you’re still getting useful results on Google means you haven’t used Google for the past year to me.
They said as useful as Google. Not that Google gives objectively very useful results. And I agree with them. I use DuckDuckGo every day and pretty much every time I have to add !g to send my query to Google because the DDG results are shit in comparison.
I’m talking about on the desktop btw. With adblocking and script blocking. I accidentally used Google on my phone yesterday and I think I got cancer.
What’s the difference between using !g and going to Google directly?
The results are still tailored to you on Google, based on past usage and tracking history. They aren’t with a bang.
Thanks, nice to know!
This is incorrect.
DDG just just performs a simple redirect to Google with the query, where the latter has access to cookies, past usage (especially if one is logged in to Google), etc.
So you say that there is no difference in googling on Google.com or using DDG with !g?
Yes. The !bangs in DDG are for convenience and not for privacy. The convenience of not opening the intended website, and typing/pasting the query to perform the search.
Same boat here. I set DDG as my default but still end up using !g around half the time.
Seriously. If I want to hope to get any result that is mildly useful, I’m obligated to add a specific site on the query, either wiki or reddit.
There is brave search, which seemed pretty good to me, even though i am using kagi search now. And to be honest, so far kagi seems really solid, and if you go past the fact that you have to pay for it (on most other search engines you are the product) then give it a try, the first 100 searches are free.
I’ve been looking for a replacement for Google Keep for so long and can not seem to find one.
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Syncing within a server so I can use it flawlessly cross platform.
Biggest issue though is that I’m also trying to figure out how to export all of the data I’ve put on there over time. Once I have that all exported, I can move elsewhere.
I made tinylist as a replacement for Keep. Syncs across devices, allows import of Keep data.
You can use Google TakeOut for this.
https://www.ghacks.net/2021/08/09/how-to-download-and-convert-google-keep-notes/?amp
And there we go.
Thanks, I’ll have a look and try doing this later on.
I went with obsidian which has several ways to sync across platforms. My preference is with git so that I can back everything up at the same time, but there’s also a built-in sync service
Completely agree. I try not to use it but don’t really have a similar replacement. For some reason there are tons of notes apps, but the ones that kind of resemble keep fall short of the easiness and practicality of it.
Right now I’m just waiting for Quillpad to add sync capabilities to see if we are finally there.
There was a thread on the android community recently about that, I think. If you want to dig through there. I think the consensus though was that it is pretty hard to replace.
If you don’t mind me asking, could you please link me to the android community? Still trying to find my way around the Lemmyverse.
Sounds like you got what you needed, but here’s the link anyway.
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