i still suspect those conflicts are related. i can 100% picture some FSB guy helping hamas attack or bribing Bibi to create a humanitarian crisis, so western attention, funding and weapons gets drawn away from Ukraine. This is some shit they would pull in desperation.
It only makes sense. Russia financing start of another conflict that takes attention away from Ukraine and has 110% certainty of making Jews (Zelenskyy) look bad because of the batshit cracy fascist Israeli government, and USA look bad because their history in middle east and they’d probably get involved directly in some way again (happening right now). Oh also Hamas attacked on Putin’s birthday or some shit
Call me conspiracy theorist but it seems so damn obvious
Ya’ll are mixing up two separate stories, but it’s entertaining so I won’t get in your way. But if you’d like to understand the mechanics driving this geopolitical nightmare, this may have some answers.
Conspiracy theory doesn’t mean false or crazy. Some conspiracies are crazy/false. But not all. There is a way to generally pick out the bat shit theories pretty quickly though. The more people that are required to maintain a conspiracy, the less likely it is to be a thing.
So for conservatives where they insist that the world is conspiring against them and that they aren’t just assholes. They’re just assholes. In the case of Russia and China running foreign influence operations. We have evidence they do. We know America does. And we know ML or people generally from .ml domains are generally just anti American hypocrites eager to play along just to bash America.
That said, if they are doing this. And they are. Pelosi just gave them plenty more ammunition. The United States is making a lot of unforced errors when it comes to Israel. All we had to do was step back for a little bit and act cautious.
I saw a video of an Israel official on RT blaming Russia and vowing revenge. I also saw some analysis that some of the weapons Hamas had were from North Korea and Russia would’ve had to have helped get the weapons there. There is all kinds of disinformation going on about the Israel war, so I take everything with a grain of salt.
Calling for a stop to an ethnic cleansing campaign is not pro Russia. If anything, Israel’s behavior has greatly increased the threat of harm to its civilians, and its image on the world stage may never recover. Same for the U.S. ever trying to claim moral superiority.
If I was living in Gaza right now, I’d be transforming myself into a human revenge machine. Even if nobody I knew personally had been killed. Just seeing my neighbors being slaughtered, I’d be quietly and coldly calculating.
That has been Russia’s game for more than a decade now: stoke existing tensions. Brexit, political polarization in the USA and internal division in nearly all European countries.
Bringing the already uneasy situation between Israel/Palestine to a boiling point in order to distract from Russia’s war in Ukraine is not a big stretch.
Prove to us that you learned something from that book.
In your own words, what is it about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russian aid to Palestine, that would alter people’s opinions in this context if they knew it?
Exactly. I swear, at this point Lemmy.world is just another Reddit propaganda zealot parade. From what was once the leader of the idea of enlightenment, the US now is like an alternate dimension where the average IQ is just 20 points lower. And it shows here, it really does. War is peace and the cold war is back on, yeehaw boys 🎉
Sorry, I see now how my comment wasn’t clear. I meant it the other way around, and was trying to agree with snipvoid. Like the poster in my window indicates, I very much align with anti zionism.
It’s all orchestrated by big, bad (simultaneously weak, cowardly) Russia - never mind the fact that Israel and Russia are pals. As long as it can sow fear and confusion in the population to hinder a popular peace movement, anything goes.
i still suspect those conflicts are related. i can 100% picture some FSB guy helping hamas attack or bribing Bibi to create a humanitarian crisis, so western attention, funding and weapons gets drawn away from Ukraine. This is some shit they would pull in desperation.
Well, I mean, Hamas is funded by Iran. Iran and Russia are good buddies. So…
It only makes sense. Russia financing start of another conflict that takes attention away from Ukraine and has 110% certainty of making Jews (Zelenskyy) look bad because of the batshit cracy fascist Israeli government, and USA look bad because their history in middle east and they’d probably get involved directly in some way again (happening right now). Oh also Hamas attacked on Putin’s birthday or some shit
Call me conspiracy theorist but it seems so damn obvious
Pelosi’s claim is that protestors have Russian ties, because, you know, opposing genocide is anti-American.
Blood hungry government officials, who would have thought
Ya’ll are mixing up two separate stories, but it’s entertaining so I won’t get in your way. But if you’d like to understand the mechanics driving this geopolitical nightmare, this may have some answers.
Conspiracy theory doesn’t mean false or crazy. Some conspiracies are crazy/false. But not all. There is a way to generally pick out the bat shit theories pretty quickly though. The more people that are required to maintain a conspiracy, the less likely it is to be a thing.
So for conservatives where they insist that the world is conspiring against them and that they aren’t just assholes. They’re just assholes. In the case of Russia and China running foreign influence operations. We have evidence they do. We know America does. And we know ML or people generally from .ml domains are generally just anti American hypocrites eager to play along just to bash America.
That said, if they are doing this. And they are. Pelosi just gave them plenty more ammunition. The United States is making a lot of unforced errors when it comes to Israel. All we had to do was step back for a little bit and act cautious.
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin (born 7 October 1952)
Sonofabitch, you’re right they did.
We don’t hate the Jews. We hate the genocide. Love the sinner. Hate the sin.
I saw a video of an Israel official on RT blaming Russia and vowing revenge. I also saw some analysis that some of the weapons Hamas had were from North Korea and Russia would’ve had to have helped get the weapons there. There is all kinds of disinformation going on about the Israel war, so I take everything with a grain of salt.
Calling for a stop to an ethnic cleansing campaign is not pro Russia. If anything, Israel’s behavior has greatly increased the threat of harm to its civilians, and its image on the world stage may never recover. Same for the U.S. ever trying to claim moral superiority.
If I was living in Gaza right now, I’d be transforming myself into a human revenge machine. Even if nobody I knew personally had been killed. Just seeing my neighbors being slaughtered, I’d be quietly and coldly calculating.
That’s why it’s unlikely Israel will stop soon. They only need a few to survive, so the danger is small, but looming enough to keep Bibi in office.
An FSB time traveler going into the past several decades to start kicking Palestinians out of their homes and restricting their general access.
Whoa dude Russia could be behind ALL CRIME EVER IN HISTORY
Got any more big brain takes to share?
That has been Russia’s game for more than a decade now: stoke existing tensions. Brexit, political polarization in the USA and internal division in nearly all European countries.
Bringing the already uneasy situation between Israel/Palestine to a boiling point in order to distract from Russia’s war in Ukraine is not a big stretch.
R O F L
ITT: People who know nothing about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russia providing Palestine with aid.
Crack a book ya’ll
Prove to us that you learned something from that book.
In your own words, what is it about the demographics of Israel or the history of Russian aid to Palestine, that would alter people’s opinions in this context if they knew it?
Exactly. I swear, at this point Lemmy.world is just another Reddit propaganda zealot parade. From what was once the leader of the idea of enlightenment, the US now is like an alternate dimension where the average IQ is just 20 points lower. And it shows here, it really does. War is peace and the cold war is back on, yeehaw boys 🎉
Anti Zionism is propaganda now LOL okay dude. And if you really want peace then you would want this ethnic cleansing by Israel to end.
Sorry, I see now how my comment wasn’t clear. I meant it the other way around, and was trying to agree with snipvoid. Like the poster in my window indicates, I very much align with anti zionism.
Oh okay no worries it happens
Yeah, it’s fucking sad. I’ve mostly dropped out because of it.
It’s all orchestrated by big, bad (simultaneously weak, cowardly) Russia - never mind the fact that Israel and Russia are pals. As long as it can sow fear and confusion in the population to hinder a popular peace movement, anything goes.
Dropping out makes it worse.
Narrow your focus for sure but please do not drop out.
Well I’m still here and posting am I? But I ain’t got the energy to pick fights everyday, multiple times a day.
It is not like Israel needs any help, and I don’t think that we are all incapable of following two different events.
If we are talking about theories, it can also be that west created it so that people’s attention goes away of Ukraine since it is just a big fiasco.
Attention is actually a limited resource
If you’re curious as to how they are related, it’s because of over-accumulation of capital.