Former CEO of Google has been quietly working on a military startup for “suicide” attack drones.::The former Google CEO has been quietly working on a military startup called White Stork with plans to design “kamikaze” attack drones.

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    11 months ago

    Imagine having an obscene amount of money for the rest of your life, and the thing you decide to do is to invent more devices and methods to kill people.

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      Because they’re not good people.

      I think we try to analyze stuff and always give benefit of doubt because life’s weird but some people are just bad - Occam’s razor and everything.

      I recently watched a great video on how drug dealers who deal Tranq justify selling dangerous drugs (by Channel 5 on yt) and the host had a great monolog on how many of these people create these fake realities to justify that “their just a cog in the machine” and have no choice and obviously this is a spectrum of sorts. But this mega rich cunt has all of the choices. Literally. So, it’s evil. No excuse.

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      Imagine a world where US already had this tech and gave it to Ukraine to protect itself.

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        And Israel, SA…, Don’t forget their best buddies!

        Anything that is in the way of $ is against the US interests.

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          Saudi Arabia having drones would have been able to destroy Houthi militants which would have prevented Houthis attacking shipping

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    Remember, Eric Schmidt took Google public with the famous “Don’t be Evil” manifesto.

    Now he makes murder bots.

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      There are company lines/slogans and then there are company action.

      First one comes from PR and second is dictated by cold hard cash. Guess which one bends if there is a conflict?

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      Making weapons is not evil. Unfortunately, we live in a world where nations start wars. You need to be able to protect yourself and your allies

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        I disagree - it’s evil. I’m not saying we don’t need military and weapons but I’d say that if from all possibile ways of approaching this is making suicide drones is kinda evil.

        Imagine having all this status, money and arguably some real skill you choose to make weapons instead of any other alternative. That’s incredibly sad.

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          It’s a weapon like any other. Maybe you’re iffy on the name, but suicide drones are just another way to attack specific targets, like missiles but far more precise. What is evil about having a remotely controlled aircraft hit an enemy position as opposed to artillery, bombs or gunfire hitting enemy position?

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          As long as they are used defensively, weapons are needed. And having the latest and greatest weapons really helps. We can see this play out in Ukraine clear as day. If Ukraine had more weapons in the beginning, Russia hadn’t invaded. If they had anyways, Ukraine would’ve been able to rebuff them with more force. Whenever the West does send weapons to Ukraine, they have an immediate and devastating effect on Russian troops. But because we are sending so little, the war bogs down into a WW1-style slugfest. Also, the ammunition given by the West allows Ukraine to do targetted strikes mostly. Russiaon the other hand is just sending wave attacks, accepting massive civilian casulties.

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          Defending yourself is not evil. What’s happening in Ukraine is evil, because the US did not supply enough arms

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            Small minded point of view. Imagine if those billions were spend productively to unite people rather than defence. I’m not saying no defence is necessary I’m just saying the other side is infinitely more efficient. We attribute diplomacy to one of the greatest human inventions not because it’s more ethical (it is) but because it literally allowed us to prosper to the point where we can sustain 7 billion people with objectively great lives for the most part.

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              That didn’t get 155mm arty rounds to Ukraine.

              No amount of money can bring back people dying to Russian bombs.

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          No, weapons are not INHERENTLY evil - as you seem to say - nor they are good, they just are and it so happens that countries need them, either to attack or to defend. Making weapons is not an evil act per se, supplying Russia with them would be a terribly evil thing to do, while supplying Ukraine or simply stockpiling them in the west in preparation for a possible escalation is a very, very good act.

          We may go to war with Russia in the future, you need to be very naive to think that’s impossible. It’s not likely but it’s a possibility that we must consider. We are seeing in the past year or two that drones are the new game changers in contemporary battlefields. It’s only because of drones on both sides that nobody is able to make advances on the frontline.

          Russia has adapted eventually and is now building a shitload of drones with increasing capabilities. China is doing the same. So is Iran. All of our (collective west) enemies are investing in this, with the aim of being able to hurt us and our allies.

          Now how is us developing drones (through private enterprise, as is custom in liberal societies) a bad thing? About bloody time I say.

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        Making weapons is evil, and I joyfully use my seat on the hiring committee to blacklist every candidate who worked at a “defense company”

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          Guess I could never work there. I worked for a big company 15 years ago that had a weapons division.

          Still weapon making is evil

    • flop_leash_973@lemmy.world
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      Yes, but ones that his company makes and he gets to profit from. It is the classic “tech bro” play. Come to market with some overly complex solution to a problem that has been solved to most peoples satisfaction for decades, claim you are disrupting a stale market that is not meeting the needs of the consumer, ignore any and all existing rules and regulations so you can undercut the existing competition, then bitch when those rules and regulations catch up after you have driven out the existing competition and made obscene profits.

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      Ummm…you not been looking at what’s happening in Ukraine? There may not be AI involved (not yet anyway), but UAV munitions are now the way of combat now.

      I pity the foot soldiers even more now. War is hell. War with drones strapped with high explosives chasing you down is hell on another level.

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        I’ve watched dozens of hours of drone footage on Ukraine. That is not what this is. The implications are nowhere near as far reaching.

        The simple fact that very few people involved in the production and implementation of slaughterbots need to know what they actually are is terrifying.

        If you think police profiling is bad, wait until it’s AI profiling based on the prejudice of a few ultra wealthy people.

        We don’t have any kind of counter measure against these.

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    Don’t these already exist? Ukraine has been using suicide drones to destroy tanks and other equipment for a couple years now.

    Edit: I remember an anecdote as well that ISIS was hand building suicide drones as well whenever the hell that was.