Well… I’ve moved all the way into “Fuck Israel” territory.
Is the reason we are showering Israel with weapons so that we can maintain a justified military influence in the middle east? And is the need for such influence because of fucking oil? Are we helping commit genocide because of oil? Again?!
We absolutely do not need Israel for strategic purposes. If anything our ME policy is built around protecting them as much as it’s built around oil producing countries.
“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.” – John Sheehan, S.J.
It’s an oversimplification but essentially true. The pissed off middle east we’ve known our whole lives is kind of because of this bullshit
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My theory is they want to nuke Iran right now and the west appeases them similar to China and North Korea
… Unsubstantiated of course
If they nuked Iran then the best thing we could do for world peace is immediately and publicly cut them loose.
All bets are off then, no one would care about public image any more
To avoid this, Gazan civilians who are out in public should wear black clothing and masks, and move tactically between points of cover.
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Automod makes me sad
IDF Nazi’s on live TV.
Moment of the civilian being shot in the video is at 2:40
Warning: The actual shooting isn’t too graphic because they’re kinda far when it happens but it’s still tough to watch.
The imagery is palpable, poetic in a sad way. The white flag they were using to show surrender turns red as they use it to staunch his wound.
I’ve been watching countless videos of unarmed civilians being shot and killed. Children running away and being shot. Mothers walking their children being sniped. Empty university buildings being filled with explosives and blown up. Hospitals being bombed and people being sniped through windows. There’s basically no doubt left in my mind that the Israeli military and by extension the government are terrorist forces. In fact them killing more people than Hamas ever killed makes them the biggest terrorists in the region.
The only thing that can end this war is Americans flipping support and to stop obstructing the UN security resolutions. Unfortunately Genocide Joe is probably not watching the same news we all are.
Israel is a terrorist state perpetrating a genocide
I agree with the spirit of what you are saying but I think there is a real point to make about how Israel can’t really be a terrorist state because it holds such an unequal power over its perceived enemies in Gaza both from the perspective of military might and also from the perspective of control over basic infrastructure like electricity and running water.
So long we see terrorism only through the lens of a morale choice to engage in warfare in a dishonorable way and not also as a form of armed resistance resorted to by actors who literally don’t have the capacity to fight what we nebulously define as a war (which this current conflict is not, it is genocide), than we will always be unintentionally ceding the conversation to authoritarian rightwing hawks who can label anyone a terrorist for resisting a far superior military force.
Hamas are called terrorists primarily as a form of morale condemnation, and while in no way am I condoning terrorism it really has to be understood as first and foremost a military strategy undertaken by political actors without the capacity to fight a traditional war. The second Hamas amassed its troops (as required for any large military operation) Israel would carpet bomb the area. If Hamas rolled out a line of absurdly obsolete tanks with no optics, fire stabilization, night vision, or modern armor and with virtually no ammunition and tried to launch a ground war into Israel, rightwing/pro-Israel talking heads would supposedly find that more honorable than terrorism… but obviously Israel would be able to utterly wipe that force off the face of the earth in minutes with the combined military industrial complex of the US and Israel.
Israel cannot be a terrorist state because its military can mount an armored offensive with some of the most advanced tanks in the world all the way through gaza and back while facing no serious resistance, with air superiority the whole time. When Israel commits violence, it is authoritarian state violence. It is genocide. I think calling it terrorism muddies the point. Terrorism is the attempt to create a political force when an actor does not possess control of a society, Israel possesses full physical control of Gaza.
I agree though, all the negative connotations you attribute to Israel by calling them a terrorist state I agree with!
I disagree that state actions can’t be considered terrorism, even given the overwhelming power differential. Israel has and continues to conduct terrorist acts in this “war”, which makes them a terrorist state in my thinking. Just because they give press conferences in the nightly news, or conduct air strikes, or poses advanced weapons my taxes paid for doesn’t make it less terroristic.
They’ve wrapped a terrorist campaign in the trappings of a traditional war to convince us they’re not terrorists, but I believe they are. If their actions are not terrorism, what do we call it? It’s clearly not a war as you point out. It’s also more than just state violence, the entire campaign is genocidal but at the same time their tactics are those of terrorists.
Incidents like killing civilians waving white flags in the street with impunity highlight this. It’s not just in Gaza this is happening in the west bank as well. It’s not about a specific political group, many Israelis just hate all Palestinians and kill them where they find them. That’s how terrorists behave.
I’d argue that not distinguishing between regular forces and civilians is another classic tactic of terrorists. Israel is famous for this, their penchant for collective punushment bears that out. Blowing up apartment buildings to get one Hamas commander, knocking down your family home and annexing your land because your cousin launched a rocket or whatever other atrocious shit they’ve done this week.
Concocking false pretenses to commit war crimes is another terrorist tendency, although I’m sure the IDF will find that command bunker under a hospital any day now.
Another example stands out to me in this conflict, if you starve a single ethnic or religious group because they don’t believe in the same imaginary sky god you do, that’s terrorism. When you operate an apartheid state and your population subjugates a different ethnic group in every aspect of life due to their beliefs, that’s terrorism. When you conduct a “war” that kills mostly civilians, women, and children, that’s terrorism.
All of these terrorist tactics set the pretext for genocide, which is what we’re witnessing I agree fully on that. My take on Israel is you gotta call a spade a spade, and Israel is a terrorist state.
There’s a long cut, and the camera zooms in on them before the shots. It’s pretty easy to spot that there’s context that is missing.
It’s probably 50-50 if that context would change anything in reality, but the fact it’s missing could mean anything from the cameraman just getting more background footage to the group putting away their firearms after taking potshots at soldiers. Most likely, it’s somewhere in between all that and they were warned verbally to turn around.
It’s all a conspiracy to malign the most moral army in the world
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Hi. I see from your name you’re a developer. I’m a combat veteran. There’s no more context needed to determine this is a war crime they were slowly walking towards them with a white flag. At worst they should be taken prisoner and removed from the combat area quickly and safely.
You can bet many Hamas terrorists already put up a white flag, as IDF testimony say they were already tricked by false “white flags”.
Heck, 3 hostages were killed by the IDF because it was near a fighting area, where Hamas terrorists used the same tactics as the hostages - writing in Hebrew, waving white flags, shouting for help.
The IDF either really suck at recognizing a threat (highly unlikely) or they learned from their mistakes of listening to anyone who isn’t verified friendly.
This whole war is such a tragedy…
Bro… Thisishamas . com is a website created by Israel. It’s literally propaganda aimed at convincing you that Israel is justified in what they’re doing. In no way is it trustworthy at all.
To be clear it’s hosted in the US but wix is an Israeli owned software company.
The company was previously reported to encouraged employees to “create videos and creative campaigns” to “support Israel’s narrative”.
Also the website owner has redacted their name for privacy and all available information points to it being created by wix itself. source
Its funny you go around to apologize for IDF while citzen of Israel, and news from Israel are criticizing what is going on.
It is okay, any military are most likely to commit war crime, instead of apologizing hold them responsible…
Oh those famous threatening acts, writing in the language of the soldiers! How dare they use the Israeli’s language!
And shooting civilians is a war crime every day of the week. No matter what else is happening. The only possible excuse is, “they ran out into the street during an active firefight and got hit by bullets that were already fired.”
