• swiffswaffplop@lemmy.world
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    1. Greta did get a nomination, just not for director.
    2. Margot didn’t, but America did.
    3. Ryan Gosling was the best part of Barbie, partly because of the writing which, again, WAS nominated.
    4. This is not “the patriarchy;” it was a really strong year for those two categories.
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    Greta is the snub, Margot did a good job but nothing stellar. Ryan Gosling stole every scene he was in.

    Edit: and the meme actually ignores that the plot is actually gender neutral. It applies to everyone, not just Barbie.

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    Men getting credit for women’s accomplishments is the plot of barbie? I thought it was about how expectations and rules for gender identity and roles hurts everyone. That then expands on how women specifically feel a unique pressure to be an impossible ideal of everything all at once.

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    Honestly the Lead Actress Category was stacked this year. Emma Stone played a very similar role but was far more complex. Why are people also forgetting that America Ferrera was also nominated ? Best Director is also a smaller pool than Best Picture where it was nominated. It looks bad on optics but if people actually watched all the movies they would know that each of the actresses nominated deserved it . It’s not like they gave the nomination to a man lol

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      Gerwig also still got a nomination for the screenplay, so it’s not like she was completely snubbed

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      I’m definitely annoyed by the lack of praise for America. She was brilliant in the role and personified the movie. Margo played the means to tell the story, but America was the story. Don’t get me wrong, Margo was amazing and deserved a nomination too, but so did America who seems to be forgotten in the whole mess of the movie for some reason. She had the single most impactful scene in the movie with her monologue about how hard it is to be a woman.

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    Honestly, it doesn’t make sense for any of them to get a nom. The film was good, it was enjoyable, but it wasn’t an Oscar film. It wasn’t Gerwig’s best work and it wasn’t Robbie’s best performance. Despite Gosling being one of the best parts of the movie, the pickings for best supporting must have been slim for that to get him a nom for that role.

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    This is kind of stupid tbh. Margot and Greta are NOT competing against Ryan. They’re competing against other females. This is because of this thing called “categories”.

    Ryan getting nominated has NOTHING to do with this. It’s not like Ryan got nominated but they didn’t because he took their place.

    This is happening because of the absolute flood of female centric characters and movies that came out recently. There’s too much competition. And much to the “feminists” dismay, Barbie is actually mid compared to the other movies and actresses.

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        It feels like you’re saying there should be more. I have no idea who’s been nominated, nor do I know most of the films that came out last year, so I’m out of the loop and would like to know if you have any female director movies you’d recommend in place of who’s been nominated.

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          Barbie was a cultural phenomenon so I would say Greta should at least be nominated. Openheimer was an ok movie in my eyes I didn’t see any of the others. I don’t personally think Barbie was a great movie not a bad movie but more like a good movie. The fact it gave a voice to so many women should mean something.

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    As someone that never saw the movie. All the clips, gifs and memes people make about it are the Ken scenes. Nobody talks about barbie presumably because her character and performance were good, but just kinda safe, middle of the road stuff.

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    I’m surprised that Margot Robbie gag account on lemmy hasn’t rung in on this post. Or are they back to obsessing about android phones again? WAKE UP, BOT!

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      Best Picture goes to the person as a Producer, not a Director.

      So, yeah, if it wins, she’ll be on stage for producing the film, but not directing it.

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        She’s also nominated for best screenplay and Barbie really doesn’t deserve an Oscar for the directing anyways

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          I dunno, the musical numbers and the giant beach battle look to have been pretty challenging from a directing perspective.

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            I’m not saying it’s badly directed but in comparison to Poor Things, Killers of the Flower Moon and Anatomy of a Fall it’s lacking. And I thought it was better than Oppenheimer, but not for the directing.

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      Kind of a weird thing for him to say imo. It’s not like they got snubbed, this year was just really stacked, and the other nominations being filled with other incredibly talented women shows that. Be happy for them, don’t put a damper on their achievements because you’re upset that your co-star didn’t get nominated.

      Obviously I get that he can’t help how he feels, but making this whole statement just feels like an odd choice.

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    The Oscars have ALWAYS been bullshit. The best films of a given year rarely get nominated let alone win. Barbie made a boatload of money and Gerwig will be able to make at least a few risky projects based on its success. I wish we would all collectively ignore the Oscars because the academy contributes so little to the art of film

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      Yup, very often the “winner” is determined because it’s their “turn” or they deserve it more so than what they did that actual year. Leonardo Di Capero (SP?) for a great example.

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        I think the thousands of people in the Academy who vote on these movies probably beg to differ with your assessment of how the awards get handed out.

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          And kids in high school will tell you they voted for the person the would make the best class president…

          Of course somehow that always seems to be the most popular person… Hmmm

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    Barbie was good. But my expectations going into it were greatly inflated by all the hype around it… Which sadly left me disappointed by it.

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      Like legitimately one of the best parts is Ken and his dance number, the director went hard on that and fucking aced it. I don’t remember much else from the film and about Barbie tbh

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      It happens to all these movies. Nice when you stumble across an unheard of underground film, but then the flip happens: “HOW DOES NOBODY KNOW ABOUT THIS??”

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    What about America Ferrera? She matters as much as Margot Robbie and got an Oscar nomination for her role in the film.