• DogWater@lemmy.world
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    11 months ago

    Truth is the second option one is just a normal ass guy. Everyone has emotions and needs. The fact is it’s still taboo to be a “man” and have emotions.

    Like honestly tell me any other option on there is preferable to someone with emotions… She acting like women don’t require the same thing? Gtfoh. It’s not even a bad thing. It’s just a human thing.

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      11 months ago

      What she’s referring to isn’t the same as having emotions. She means the people who expect everyone around them, especially their romantic partner, to manage their emotions for them. Plenty of women do it, too.

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        No, that’s the narcissist. She’s referring to having to help someone with their emotional needs. Sounds moreso like she needs to work on her own if it’s laborious to support her partner emotionally.

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      one of the main points and benefits of a relationship is being able to share problems with someone else and have someone that could cheer you up or to share excitement with

      ‘emotional labor’ is for actual jobs, especially customer service type jobs

    • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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      She’s referring to overly emotional men, who need extra attention; guys who can’t handle failure or rejection, who have a bad day at work and then can’t help around the house at all at night and who expect their partner to take care of them, regardless of how their partner’s day went. I know the type of dude she’s talking about and I wouldn’t want my daughter to bring one home. Dude needs a mother not a partner.

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        Nope this is a list of all the men available, like she said. She’s painting all emotional men with the same brush. There are good men and bad men in each of those categories she listed, but she thinks we’re all bad.

        So I cry and need a hug sometimes? Emotional labor. I can describe the full range of emotions I feel to a partner and deal with them in a healthy way? Gross.

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            I know who I am. I’m just reading what she said. That’s the dating pool.

            Let me ask you this:

            How could a decent man possibly respond to a post like that without being lumped into it, like you just did to me?

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                Yes, I suppose we could just become more silent and withdrawn, couldn’t we?

                Let me try a different tack. I know I have issues. I’ve been working on myself for years. As men, we mostly experience negative reinforcement with emotional growth.

                But if we are trying to get healthy, how are we supposed to respond to that kind of invalidating talk, inside our own heads? What if the woman saying that kind of stuff isn’t just venting her frustration onto the internet, what if she’s saying it to us, in a relationship? Does that kind of talk inspire us to improve or push us into darker places? Is complaining about us like this in any way helping to improve the way men and women interact?

                • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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                  11 months ago

                  Once again you’re making it the woman’s job to help you improve yourself. You’re going to see and hear things that put you in a dark place. That’s life. Bringing yourself back to a middle ground of contendedness requires constant self work.

                  I’m sorry you have problems. Not everyone breaks the wheel.

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                    Well I appreciate your input. I agree that it’s not a woman’s job to help us improve ourselves, but you haven’t convinced me that this sort of complaint benefits anyone.

                    And no kidding. This is going to take a lifetime of work.