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Chinese Carmaker Overtakes Tesla as World’s Most Popular EV Maker::Elon Musk once scoffed at the notion that BYD could compete with his company. Now, the automaker run by billionaire Wang Chuanfu is poised to be the new No. 1 in electric vehicles.
The fact that the headline says “Chinese Carmaker” and not “BYD” says a lot about their international market share.
To be honest, I think it more tells you the article was written by an American for an American audience.
Poorly. Just add the name after Chinese Car maker.
Yes, that would be great, it’s a bit editorializing, but making it less click bait, should absolutely be acceptable.
I’m not sure if it’s that or clickbait to get you to find out who it is. That kinda crap has been rampant lately.
Could be both though honestly. Either way, I’m sick of it.
I agree with that, I guess it could have been added after the original headline, maybe putting it in parenthesis.
Also says a lot that despite that they still make more. Having more global sales in effectively one country is more impressive if anything.
The headline also says overtakes, while it says “poised to be” in the text.
It says a lot about that “journalist” knowledge of the topic
I don’t wanna be that guy, but BYD are not only garbage tofu cars, they are also HEAVILY subsidized by the CCP in an effort to dump on the competition.
You can be that guy all you want, those garbage tofu cars are still dominating the market.
I know they are dominating the market. But I’m explaining why they are. It’s NOT because they make superior cars Each car is sold at a loss with the funding/backing of the China government with the sole purpose to dump(kill domestic competition).
Amazon prime sorta did this on a micro scale. Dump their pricing to kill Barnes and Noble and after they go out of business, they open and replace them with their own stores. But instead of Amazon funding the dump, it’s the god damn CCP and our entire auto industry.
How is that different from Tesla?
How? Teslas that are sold in China are made in China. BYD sold in the UK are made in China.
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Lol he thinks Teslas arent subsidized
How are they garbage? For instance BYD makes the safest batteries available. They started making electric cars about the same time as Tesla.
You are either not informed or TikTok has brain washed you. BYD leads the pack for most battery related fires than any other car manufacturer.
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I don’t use TikTok at all.
In EU Tesla has a marketshare equivalent to the rest of EV top 10 combined, I’d guess Tesla also has the most fires of any manufacturer in EU.
https://evmarketsreports.com/byds-growing-market-share-in-chinas-ev-market/
In China BYD has 7 of the top 10 most sold models, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7 and 9. Tesla only has 3rd and 8th. So obviously BYD sell way more cars in China than Tesla.
I’m not sure how the numbers shown 11 for Byd and 5 for Tesla for 2020-2022 together with the others, can in any way add up to 640 in first quarter of 2022??
The numbers of the article you linked simply don’t make any sense. But apart from that, there is no real indication BYD or the other Chinese brands should be more prone to fires than Tesla.Good. Nobody should use TikTok.
Best selling doesn’t mean they are great cars. Teslas are garbage cars too. The best selling cars again, doesn’t mean they are superior cars.
All cars are prone to fire. But BYD have already had a recall for their batteries. https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/fans-take-byd-task-recall-confusion-clouds-chinese-ev-makers-image-2022-06-30/
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/byd-recall-more-tang-dm-095837668.html
BYD still uses the standard lithium ion batteries. Tesla now uses lithium iron phosphate batteries, if you didn’t know it is considered the safest battery.
I will agree that you and I are experts in this field, but you have to acknowledge that China is intentionally dumping these cars with the intent to kill off competition and gain market share.
Why do you consider them to be the safest, any specific reason?
Because it’s been tested to be way safer than other batteries.
https://evpowerhouse.com.au/blog/byd-blade-battery/One of the primary concerns with EVs is battery safety, especially during accidents. Traditional lithium-ion batteries have been prone to overheating and combustion. However, the Blade Battery boasts several safety features, starting with its use of lithium iron phosphate (LFP) for the cathode material. LFP chemistry offers superior stability, even at temperatures as high as 930 °F (500 °C), making it significantly safer than conventional lithium-ion batteries.
That means it’s generally safer in theory because it more chemically stable.
The Blade Battery has also passed industry-standard tests, including the “Everest” test, where a nail puncture is used to check the battery’s resistance to ignition during an internal short circuit. Unlike other batteries that charred or exploded during this test, the BYD Blade Battery remained cool at 30-60 °C (85-140 °F), demonstrating its exceptional heat management.
Practical test results confirm this, and damage that will make other batteries burn explosively, merely makes this battery warm.
But it’s not 100% safe, there have been accidents that shouldn’t have happened, but did anyway. This is being investigated, and it is still considered significantly safer than competing batteries.Is true, that’s cool.
Probably not the type of car I would ever buy. I heard the patent is about to expire so that’s great. Not that I understand why the western world would care about Chinese parents. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Of course they’re garbage, they’re Chinese
I wouldn’t go all out saying all Chinese made things are garbage. The majority of cellphones are produced there and many of them are not garbage.
Agreed, China can produce garbage and it can produce amazing things.
The thing is that companies that outsource to China often want much cheaper manufacturing, which obviously results in lower quality.
They can produce stuff at the same quality and probably at a higher quantity as anyone else (except maybe for extremely specialised stuff which only 1 company in the world can do)
I am shocked that a Chinese company with access to materials is selling heavily subsided EVs. Shocked! Meanwhile in the US, nobody can make them in quantity and when they do Americans don’t want them. Shocked!
None of you would purchase this car to any Toyota quality wise as well. These things are sub Mitsubishi quality.
But it wouldn’t hurt if US could massively subsidize it’s own cheap EV options
Predicted for this quarter. Musk has been scoffing the idea, whilst watching them catch him and simultaneously shooting himself in the foot with his own plans.
And still their shares are just a fraction of Tesla’s share price.
Where can I get one?
BYD is available in most of the world, the story linked beneath is about a newer model ATTO, but Dolphin is probably even more popular: https://cleantechnica.com/2023/11/27/byd-atto-3-now-available-in-50-countries-neta-auto-enters-central-south-america/
This is an overview of their global presence:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_Auto#Global_expansion
Hiw the fuck is Tesla the most popular when their cars are straight up trash?
But are you really comfortable bying a Chinese car?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOA7qKMcjcE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKa8mVOe5so
And are they really selling that many?
This is complete bullshit, BYD makes the worlds safest EV batteries with their Blade battery, and they are the world leading manufacturer on volume too.
https://evreporter.com/byd-blade-battery-what-makes-it-ultra-safe/