“Scheming EU states” is a total flame bait headline. The UK is not part of the EU, so why should they be included in any of this? They should be HAPPY about the EU not “meddling” with their “freedom”!
If that idiotic and corrosive Brexit campaign had been defeated, the headline might be screaming how scheming EU nations drag the UK into their expensive transport plans.
Also the same mindless parrots on their tellys and newspapers would be mindlessly arguing the point, tossing out word salads, exactly as they would with the EU making their plans and keeping the UK out of them.
Meanwhile, non-voters who could have made a difference will be just as idiotic on polling day: “Politics is for wankers/both parties are the same. Shall we go for drinks?”
It’s wild to me how America, UK, and Canada are dealing with these idiotic right wing extremists or fans. It did not go well in the states, is still not going well, but people in other countries are all agreeing that yeah now is the time to be loud, racist, shitholes who make life worse for everyone with their stupidity??? What the fuuuck
Step 1) blame everyone else for everything that’s wrong. Step 2) promise all the good things if only people vote for you. If they are actually gullible enough to do that we come to step 3) grab all the wealth you can and shift it to your cronies, smash anything too heavy to carry off and leave the opposition in a smouldering ruin that you can then again blame and berate the next government for.
And you’d think at the latest when the Brexit happens and totally fucked up logistics, industry and the already ailing healthcare in the UK, the right-wing voters might have realized “Oh wait, maybe the people we’ve been voting for us have been lying and it was rather obvious with how they didn’t want to be associated with the shit they made us vote for after it actually worked out and they won the vote”. Nope. They’re proud of it. All the mean mean evil EU now being mean to lil’ ol’ England out of pure spite. Aye.
(to be fair we already did that a long time ago when we banished them to a damp, sad and depressing island in the north sea)
I heard on the radio this morning the government singing their own praises after reintroducing pint size bottles of wine. A “Brexit benefit”. This is after 99% of those surveyed said they wanted metric sizes. 99%!
pint size bottles of wine
Who is that wine for? Ants?
Old people who for some reason cannot let go of a system of measures that needs to DIE
You know how the right-wing nutjobs have been frothing about a “new world order” conspiracy theory for a long time now? You know, the one about a secretive multinational cabal plotting to take over the entire world?
Yeah… it turns out even that was projection, too.
The Netherlands just voted in our own right-wing extremist, Geert Wilders. 😭
All of Europe, and a bunch of other places, are swinging to the right. It’s not an Anglosphere thing, you just read english-speaking news more.
Funny enough, the UK is in the process of swinging back leftwards again at the moment. Roll on the 2024 general election.
I’d welcome the EU meddling in my freedom; certainly would be better than the Tories
The UK doesn’t need to be part of this really, there’s one link to mainland Europe (the channel tunnel) and the rest should just be sensible UK road and rail network planning. NI and Ireland already have ways to cooperate when it comes to planning transport on the Ireland of Island.
I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.
on the Ireland of Island
Love this at what looks like 11pm on the day that’s in it as I write at 4am.
Love you, neighbour. Sorry about the HS2 bullshit. Shambles tbh.
Lol my bad. I’m going to leave it like that for everyone to enjoy!
Oh 100%!
sensible UK road and rail network planning
How many decades has it been since THAT last happened, though?
I say “in theory” because our government just scrapped HS2 phase 2, so our rail network is going to continue to be shit for years.
Oh. Same page, it would seem 😁
Those scheming betrayers also left Australia out of the transport plan for EU members.
How much lead paint do you need to eat to see the loaded language in these headlines and think “yeah - seems legit.”
FORGET Australia 🦘… They left out the Greatest Country in the Galaxy/Universe ; 'Merica!!!
Even left it out in the comments section… Unbelievable
SMH 😒🙄
That’s Switzerland. (not a member of the EU)
Imagine speaking with such authority whilst simultaneously lacking such a basic understanding of Europe.
Which 70 cretins upvoted this arse water?
So the EU isn’t allowed to cooperate with a country (that’s at least part of the single market and contiguous continent), because they saw no value in including Britain, and that was a scheming betrayal?
What point are you failing to make here?
I don’t think that they’re refusing to cooperate. I think they’re looking after their own members and why wouldn’t they? Are you suggesting that they give the same benefits to member states as non-member states? If so, why wouldn’t everyone leave?
Are you going to adress that you don’t know the difference between Austria and Switzerland or am I just getting suckered in to feeding the troll? Coz if you’re trolling then you’re actually very funny but I’m probably too autistic to tell.
It said ‘Australia’, not ‘Austria’. You know, ‘Australia’…the one in Oceania. Probably highlighting the ridiculousness of a country so removed from the continet feeling slighted for not being included in plans for the EU.
You suckered yourself into looking like an arse.
Oh. Oops! Haha
Which 4 cretins upvoted this?
I guess some people like it when they see someone admit a mistake.
I guess some people like it when they see someone admit a mistake.
I’m pretty sure they also left Australia out.
This is from the Daily Express, which is a paper that’s full of these sort of ragebait, horseshit headlines.
Ragebait for tories, perhaps. I find it delicious
I honestly thought it was sarcasm.
Wasn’t the UK govt also complaining about their tax money going into funding EU projects like this?
No one said they didn’t want these kind of projects. They just didn’t want to have to pay for them.
I lived in Britain during the Leave campaign and it was all about getting the benefits without the responsabilities or costs.
In fact, the sequence of political events that lead to the Leave Referendum was Britain in the EU trying to have less and less obligations whilst keeping the benefits of Membership to the point that eventually, when the UK demanded “otherwise we have a Referedum on Leave” to not to have to abide by Freedom Of Movement into their country whilst keeping all the rest including Freedom Of Movement for Britons into other EU countries, the rest of the EU said “No!”. After this, David Cammeron was under huge pressure to do the Referendum “to show the EU” and the rest is History.
The La-La-Land fantasism of the Leave side was always unbelievable, with everything from genuine expections of, post leave, having “Same Rights as Members With No Obligations”, to after Brexit “Other EU Nations will Follow Us Out”.
I would say that by this point it’s clear that whatever Britain is “showing the EU” isn’t quite what was in Leaver fantasies.
Now departing Fuck Around; next stop, Find Out!
Especially true since the article comes from a paper that backed Brexit.
EUxit? Didn’t the EU exit from the UK a couple years ago?
Nah… That was Russia
Other way around
Nope, it was EU sponsored campaign to remove UK. For obvious reasons
Edit: not sure if I’m getting downvoted for a lame joke, someone taking it seriously or just brits
I just assumed you were being serious, for obvious reasons. But as a Brit I find it funny
It’s always weird to read stuff from the UK to do with brexit. That paper is clearly some right wing rag and the reality is that we are connected via the channel tunnel and all that this is doing is leaving us off the maps and probably the reasoble prices.
But people like to rile it up like we are missing out on some grand EU mega plan that is going to save the world. The EU has plenty of problems and is not some sort of nirvana. Would I rather be in the EU? Yes it is better to be part of something. However it is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and to be honest day to day it makes little difference to me. People in the UK are not crying into their union jack hankies, we have bigger problems like a completely corrupt and incompetent ruling class.
Why is it better to be part of something? I hear people say that all the time like it should be obvious, but the concept repulses me.
Practical outcome in the case of the EU?
- Relaxed borders / Easy International Travel
- Easy to go work in another country
- Same currency (for most of it)
Probably more but that’s what I can think of right now.
“repulses”? That’s some mighty strong feelings you have there
The Trans-European Transport Project has been ongoing since the '90s.
And since I was curious, here are the new guidelines adopted last week. Nothing revolutionary but an evolution in the right direction. I do find it personally interesting that the TEN-T apparently did not previously formally take into account military mobility…
TETP is just a nefarious scheme to dictate glorious typography to member states. Seriously that thing is good: Ridiculously legible and specifically so in “big font at long distances” situations, meanwhile both friendly and authoritative – exactly the kind of thing you want when asking for the way. No “yeah let me think where was that intersection” or “can’t you find your own way” but “Of course! Go straight ahead, first to the left, then the second right”.
Now if the EU would get around to telling member states that they should learn from each other in overall traffic and urban design, and follow the best practices that they can find anywhere. Which is diplomatic language for “Do as the Dutch do”.
I see two arrows leading into the UK. One across the channel and the other into NI, FFS.
Don’t like those arrows pointing at the UK, feels a bit Dad’s Army.
Two too many, if you ask me. They wanted out, happy they are out. Maybe help Scotland separate and join the EU again, but that’s where it ends.
Why not liberate northern Ireland and reunite it with the rest
Because some of the people there really wouldn’t like that.
It’s complicated 😞…
I think the bottom one, at least, already exists and is the channel tunnel the Eurostar uses
The channel tunnel exists so already a direct link and all the usage without having to pay for it? Abit of a win really
Pfft, they’re lucky the French don’t bomb their end of the chunnel.
Knowing the french they are just waiting for the UK to look at them wrong so they can do that. After a few weeks of rioting of course.
Of course. The je ne sais quoi is rioting, always. As is the avec.
I imagine sad, regretful brits dining/vacationing are a boon to the economy.
Scheming EU to make an EU travel plan for countries that didnt voluntarily leave the EU to pursue some racist bullshit propaganda that even the people who started brexit, deep down, didnt want, and never thought would actually happen.
I never knew the leopards would eat my face!
Why are there roads through Switzerland
So you can get through as quick as possible and don’t have to get out in this weirdo country /s
I have one word for you.
Schengen
So rich people from the EU can bring their money there in briefcases to “save” taxes.
To the idiot half who voted Brexit: fuck off.
To the other half who voted against it: sorry guys.
