It’s Time to Ditch Evernote for One of These Alternatives::undefined
I love Joplin, https://joplinapp.org/
Open source, encryption, features rich, sync across devices, what’s not to like?
I use this and it’s hooked into my nextcloud. Good to go.
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what’s not to like? Poor ui, bad syncing. Good software, not perfect.
Obsidian is a godsend. The sheer number of plugins gives you basically anything you could want.
It not being open-source is pretty much my only complaint lol
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Is there a plugin that lets me get rid of huge wasted whitespace on either side of the doc?
Sounds like you’re talking about the readable line length setting. That’s an option you can turn off in the default settings of the app.
No good way to use it across multiple devices is my deal breaker for obsidian.
I’ve been using Syncthing for this purpose. My notes are synced between a desktop, laptop, Android phone, and Android tablet. It took me forever to finally take the time to try Syncthing, and it’s been nearly flawless.
You need Obsidian sync for that. It works awesome. It’s not free.
I boost Joplin on here every chance I get, so please allow me to do so again now! I run it with my own sync server and a small userbase of about 6 people on a cheap VPS. I could not be happier; between the webclipper, sharing, encryption, embedding of pdfs, photos, even mp4s, ease of selfhosting, it’s an amazing project! It’s been (knock on wood) rock solid!
Sounds like it is a bit advanced and technical for me…all I want is something I can make a list on android and my partner can edit it on iOS. Can it do that?
Yep! As the other commenter who replies to you said, it definitely can. You don’t even have to selfhost it; the app’s developer hosts a cloud sync server you can pay for thays dirt cheap. You can also sync notes without the cloud server. There are a lot of ways you can use it without having to get into the technical aspect of it!
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I still wish it could render rich text and pdfs/attachments in the composition window, but other than that (and lack of native ocr) it’s been a perfect EN replacement for my uses.
Is the sync server an alternative to cloud based saving?
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Yep.
I’ve switched to Joplin which I sync with my Nextcloud server.
OneNote is also good, if you’re already in the Microsoft ecosystem.
If you’re in the MS ecosystem then OneDrive supports application syncing as a thing and so does Joplin including on its mobile clients. It’s basically free seemless cloud syncing once you set it up.
I use OneNote a lot with hand-written notes (on a Surface Pro). And I think it is an excellent piece of software… but I’m highly uncomfortable about vendor lock-in, and about over-sharing data with Microsoft (or any mega-corp).
Over recent years, Microsoft have been pushing harder and harder into their data sharing stuff to the point where some features that have nothing whatsoever to do with online data are still disabled unless you enable ‘online connected experiences’. So it’s probably a good time to get out of that ecosystem rather than into it.
I like Joplin; but the main reason I use OneNote is to write and draw on it with a stylus. So until Joplin has full stylus support, it’s hard for me to completely switch over to it without completely changing how I make notes.
I also take a lot of handwritten notes but disliked the hand writing UI on Onenote, I’m using Goodnotes for this.
It would be great to have all my notes in one system but I don’t mind that much. Goodnotes has good OCR so I can search my notes.
Lots of mentions for Obsidian. I’ll throw in my favorite for the past few years that’s similar: Logseq! Check it out!
They list Notion, but IMO Obsidian is the better path. Lack of offline access to data is a big risk to using Notion, and what made me switch to Obsidian after being bit by internet access issues keeping me from being able to use my notes during a critical meeting. Hard no for Notion ever since.
I use Obsidian for a mind map but Notion for project/life management.
That depends. If Notion goes down that’s a problem. If you can’t access Notion because YOUR internet is down, I don’t see you being productive at all. The issue is moot as Notion syncs everything locally, so you can access your latest notes. You just can’t push any changes to the cloud until you have internet again.
The notes being sync’d locally is exactly what would have allowed me to remain productive for that meeting. It sounds like Notion has this ability today, which is good to hear. In this example local access wasn’t yet an option. This was a few years ago though, and I’ll stop bringing this up as a gap since it no longer applies.
Simplenote is also great and cross platform.
Who is still using Evernote in 2023? Everyone I know is using either Notion or Google Keep.
I am but I have less than 50 notes and I like the cloud sync feature for 2 devices.
I’ve exported my notes and imported them into Obsidian but it lacks the cloud sync and up to 2 devices, for free anyway.
Never heard of Notion but I’ll give that a shot. Thanks!
It is kinda hard to move on when you have hundreds of notes you know… I still haven’t moved, but I have been using Obsidian only locally for so long.
you do not know any sane ppl it seems.
they are not using google keep, they are just too dumb to make decisions for another app or use notion because the other mamals in the herd use it. don’t be like that. help them evolve into proper humans.
I really love Obsidian. It is a perfect fit for my needs. I just hope they don’t do the creeping subscription bullshit like Evernote did. The $96 a year is reasonable for those who need it (I don’t need it).
Crossing my fingers that the usual greed doesn’t give them brain rot. I probably should have gone with Joplin, but I’m too invested in Obsidian at this point (and very happy with it). I guess if they do go over to the Dark Side, I could freeze it at the last good release for a while then switch.
I just save my notes to a network location (could be icloud, dropbox, gdrive etc.) which is a much cheaper (free) way to sync notes – love Obsidian
You’re probably fine for a while. My bet is that obsidian’s really happy with all the free advertising evernote’s been giving it
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Even better, Obsidian notes are stored directly in folders on your device as plain text (markdown) files.
It’s all there, nothing missing, and no annoying proprietary format.Not only can you keep using them without the Obsidian application, you can even do so using a “dumb” text editor - though something that can handle markdown will give you a better experience.
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I was pretty happy with EverNote until it started to feel like they were ransoming my content against sudden price hikes and enshittifying reductions in basic function Fk those guys
I am currently selfhosting and trying Trilium, looks good so far
Looks like Windows 10 version of OneNote. I use OneNote daily.
I used Evernote religiously five years ago. But I left it for OneNote as well. No issues since.
Trillium lets you run arbitrary JavaScript, plugging into their APIs. It lets you do some cool stuff that you otherwise couldn’t with OneNote. If you do need something more powerful than OneNote, and admittedly most people don’t, I’d recommend downloading trillium and checking out the sample JS code that the developer wrote.
Trilium is great. It has a copy of excalidraw with history which is nice. You can also automate things inside of it with scripting
Came to say this. Been loving my Trilium instance.
I think I’m a bit of a dinosaur, but I’ve been making all of my notes in Zim for over 10 years. It’s not much to look at but I find the hierarchical wiki structure easy to navigate, and most of the functionality (todo lists, equations, version control integration, etc) is implemented by simple plugins.
in my opinion, a lot of these programs are too complicated - I tried Joplin for a while but I ended up spending more time organising my notes than I did making them.
I don’t need to take notes for work, but this seems great for documenting the home automation & media setup for my wife.
Don’t go to Notability. They went full asshole at the top of this last semester. Changed the entire interface as people were starting their first week of class. They nuked features that made note taking for class nice. They clearly don’t respect their users and will most likely do the same thing again.
What happened to Evermote? 😂 I used it so much when u was in uni, so sad
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Holy shit, $170 a year for pro? Who on Earth thinks it’s worth that? SAAS is generally an infuriating model, but I definitely think I get $100 worth of use out of Office 365 over the course of a year. Evernote is just not that useful.
In other words, the market is nearly saturated now, and Evernote makes its money with business people and institutions who often adhere to the “don’t change a working system” principle regarding their “tools.” Most of them will just keep paying if the functions are needed and already integrated.
It’s a model most of these types of companies adopt sooner or later if they are for profit, and investors see the potential of this business as almost exhausted. It’s: grow, establish, grip, and squeeze.
And make it difficult to export the data for another system migration.
Ah yes, the good ol’ extortion system: “Nice data you have here, it would be a shame if something happened to it.”
I mostly ditched them many years ago because of privacy concerns (or lack thereof.) Around when I stopped using Dropbox too (same reason.)
They have just been bloating the software continually with useless features as well over the years, the android client became so bloated it was basically unusable for taking quick notes. I was a user for 13 years, after the last price increase I imported everything to Joplin about a year ago and am very happy with it.
The app literally freezes for me now there is so much crap in it.
They also started annoying the users on every load with “deals” to buy their paid version. And they do that shitty thing where they switch the intuitive nature of the yes and no buttons.
Oh wow feels bad :/
Not me having never actually heard of Evernote…
Unless you were into productivity applications 8-12 years ago I’m not surprised.
