It was not immediately clear why the sedan smashed into an SUV that was part of the motorcade. The driver was surrounded by agents who had their guns drawn.
A sedan smacked into a Secret Service vehicle that was part of President Joe Biden’s motorcade in Delaware on Sunday night.
Following the crash, U.S. Secret Service agents whisked Biden into a vehicle.
Agents quickly surrounded the sedan with guns drawn and aimed at its driver, who had his hands up. The cause of the crash was not immediately clear.
Special Agent Steve Kopek, a Secret Service spokesperson, said the vehicle that struck was securing Biden’s motorcade route.
If this was just a DUI or something, the driver is going to have a very very bad time.
On the other hand, the driver probably has a uniquely high chance of a presidential pardon. Seeing how the president is already aware of his case.
The president could only ask the delaware governor to grant one.
Good eye skimmed over the Delaware part. Assuming it was a DUI (and not an intentional attack) it’d be state jurisdiction.
Yeah, he might catch some federal flack, but it seems most of his issues will be state affairs unless this wasn’t just hitting the worst possible car.
Even if he were a drunk terrorist, the feds would handle the attack, and as long he isn’t charged federally (if one even could be), the state can still slap an everyday DUI there.
If he gets pardoned and it happens again can he use the same pardon twice?
Non-joke answer: Pardons are for a person’s actions not the person in general. He would need a second pardon.
Thats an interesting distinction :) Can you talk more about that?
Not sure what exactly you want me to touch on. But pardons can’t be for future actions.
Let’s say you rob a bank and get pardoned. Having received that pardon doesn’t mean you can go rob that bank again free of charge.
If you had robbed that bank again after getting pardoned you’d face prison time. But if the president happens to believe in
secondthird chances and grants you a second pardon for the second robbery you could walk free.Gotcha, ya I didn’t think it was like omnibus/universal immunity for future offences aha. That would be like…presidential immunity and even that’s not supposed to be a forever thing, shouldn’teven be allowed during or should be heavily qualified
Edit: found it interesting that pardons can actually halt the prosecutorial effort altogether, like prior to a verdict. Maybe there should be a cooling off period like requiring all oending litigation to play out and then by then see where everybody’s at.
Justice delayed/disrupted ⚖️ right?
Yeah the idea behind a pardon is that the head executive is basically saying that you’ve been punished enough and that no further prosecution will occur. It’s similar to how they can stay a death penalty. But the big downside is that accepting a pardon means accepting legal guilt. You can’t keep fighting a case saying you weren’t ever guilty.
For an example of how far pardons go look at Nixon. The case was still being built, and Ford (idiotically) deemed that proceeding with a trial of a former president over election misdeeds would do too much damage to the nation’s trust in its political system. Nixon didn’t stand trial. Nixon only pled guilty by acceptance of the pardon. But because of that, had he been able to run again (he’d hit his term limit) and tried, he would’ve had a court case over if his crimes prohibited him from running again, same as if he’d gone to prison for them.
If it doesn’t work for farts, probably not
Would this be considered a federal offense? Seems like a local thing. The president can only pardon federal crimes.
There’s a couple ways they could make this a federal offence depending on the circumstances, ranging from destruction of federal property (assuming Biden was in a gov car) to attempted assassination of the active US president. Again depending on the circumstances.
Decidedly one of the worst hangovers anyone’s ever had. “What happened last ni-oh my God”
To be fair, he shouldn’t suffer any greater punishment than if he had hit into anyone else.
Well, I’m fucked.
- That guy, probably.
Shoutout ma man biden still rockin that iPhone X or XS. You don’t always have to have the latest and greatest.
You don’t always have to have the latest and greatest.
That’s why we have Biden
AOC president when?
AOC legally becomes old enough in October of '24. You have to be 35.
Very odd rule. I just passed 35 recently and i feel like I’m slowly dying already. Feels like a struggle to learn new things
Damn dude, good luck. 35+ I feel like I’m just hitting my stride.
I think this is exactly the metric our geriatric Congress was going for.
35 in 1787 is way different from 35 in 2023. :)
Around the same age here, and I feel I would have made a much better president in my mid 20s than I would now, for sure.
Jesus fuck, no thank you. People in their 20s are absolute idiots.
It depends on the person entirely. Some mid 20 year olds are absolute idiots, but some boomer age people are absolute idiots. I don’t think age is really a factor in that.
I think it was to prevent family legacies making the office more like royalty.
Can one run for president “early” if one will be old enough during election/potential presidency?
In theory, you just have to be 35 to be President.
If she ran, she would turn 35 a month before election day and would be 35+3 months when sworn in.
The youngest elected US President to date was JFK, who was 43.
Theodore Roosevelt was 42 when he assumed office after McKinley was assassinated.
Interesting, thank you!
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good enough 🙂
On the other end, I remember when Obama came into office and there were no smartphones certified for meeting the security regulations, the USSS & NSA had to work with RIM to build a custom hardened blackberry because he wouldn’t give it up.
He was stuck with that blackberry until his last year or two in office and complained publicly that iPhones weren’t allowed yet lol
Then there’s Trump, who was probs rolling an FSB build of iOS with a passcode of 1111.
He used an unauthorized, insecure Samsung Galaxy S3 or something like that, actually.
The presidential burner phone, available today at walmart
“Comes preinstalled with Pegasus, for your security”
Passcode had to be “80085”
No better way to keep a poor person poor than trying to appear rich.
Case in point “luxury” clothes that cost insane amounts of money just because they have labels printed on them for everyone to see and not because.the fabric is particularly great.
Sure it’s good quality but not better than what you get for half the price and not even close to the custom tailored stuff the really rich people wear…
Really don’t understand how people spend a fortune to walk around advertising for Gucci, LV, etc…
My prediction: It was really just an accident, but they’ll throw the book at the driver and lock him up for several years.
Well yeah it’s not like a planned and malicious attack on congress, that only gets you a few months and that’s hundreds of elected officials.
This is what, one old dude - accidental collision must be worth six years.
Imagine you have a fender bender, and while you’re processing it and thinking “oh fuck where did I put my insurance card” as you hastily dig through your glove box, you look up and there’s a dozen dudes with suits and guns surrounding you
And then you have to go to work afterward lol
“Hey Bob, how was your drive in this morning?”
You really think they’re letting that driver go to work any time soon?
They’re probably still just gettting started with the probes. And I don’t mean that… figuratively. We’ll not just figuratively.
Got in a bit of a fender bender. No big deal really. turns off tv playing local news
He’s lucky it wasn’t a mystery plane trying to land
“Why are you losing to trump in the polls?”. This is a reflection on the people … Might add well ask “why are people stupid Mr President?”… But what do I know, I did not stayed at a Holiday inn last night.
Jesse, what the fuck are you talking about?
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I can’t understand him at all but he did get Chingy’s Holidae Inn stuck in my head.
