• gregorum@lemm.ee
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    proof again that the government could severely curtail homelessness if they wanted to-- they just don’t.

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        The disparity in wealth should grow instead of shrink.

        As long as most people believe this, then that’s what’s going to happen.

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          Wealth disparity is not relevant to this discussion. It doesn’t say anything about where the bottom tier is.

          If we had full UBI, free homes, free food, free healthcare, etc and some small portion of the country were quadrillionaires, we’d have massive wealth disparity and no loss of quality of life.

          Wealth is not zero-sum, and the high and low do not necessarily have anything to do with one another.

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            Bruh, not to shit out an old conservative adage, but that money has to come from somewhere. You’re missing the entire nuances of how the monetary system works, and the whole argument of where the money should come from for these things. A country where wealth disparity is increased because the tax comes from the middle class looks very different from one where it comes from the upper classes and massive corporations.

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              A country where wealth disparity is increased because the tax comes from the middle class

              This also has nothing to do with the money disparity.

              Like, I agree with you regarding taxation in broad terms. But the objective reality is the wealth disparity does not have any impact, on its own, on anyone’s individual well-being, the same way me acknowledging that it doesn’t has no bearing on whether or not wealthy people should pay more taxes.

              If we cannot discuss things in a real world framework, were basically just writing fan-fiction of reality. That is a MAGA way to create policy, not a real world methodology.

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                The way you’re trying to frame this is magical thinking where wealth disparity within our society doesn’t come with sets of nuanced issues that don’t directly effect the wellbeing of society as a whole. After a certain rate of wealth disparity, for instance, those with the most can directly control those with the least with any number of creative ways that mostly amount to “I have money so I can buy people.”

                From controlling government officials, to controlling individual level situations like law enforcement and judiciary measures so that they can essentially do whatever they want, which is never used for the betterment of others and always to the detriment of the masses. To leave these things out of a conversation about wealth disparity and quality of life is just disingenuous man.

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                  The way you’re trying to frame this is magical thinking where wealth disparity within our society doesn’t come with sets of nuanced issues that don’t directly effect the wellbeing of society as a whole.

                  This isn’t magical thinking, it’s simply understanding that wealth is not zero-sum.

                  https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/seven-deadly-economic-sins/wealth-is-positivesum/78D2A23B03BB245AF40C45B5C1F6C9FF

                  From controlling government officials, to controlling individual level situations like law enforcement and judiciary measures so that they can essentially do whatever they want, which is never used for the betterment of others and always to the detriment of the masses.

                  This is indeed bad, but is a measure of the strength of institutions, not wealth disparity. Wealth doesnt win elections on its own - 2012, 2016, 2018, 2020, and 2022 all featured out-spent candidates who won. Trump famously won despite being outspent handily in 2016

                  I’m genuinely flabbergasted that some people perceive this as some sort of hot take and not just acknowledging the reality at play here.

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              It’s not a take. This is just correct information that you don’t like. There is 0 opinion in the above.

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                You would be delusional enough to believe that.

                It’s okay, I’m going to put you on my ignore list now. You’re not worth arguing with because every post you make is asinine.

                Goodbye.

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      We can invent billions of dollars to give away during the pandemic, and billions more to give Israel to continue its genocide against Palestinians, but solving student debt or homelessness or universal health care? We don’t have enough money for that!

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        Because interest payments make profit, and reducing people’s ability to not live paycheck to paycheck increases the workers dependency on the system.

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        universal health care? We don’t have enough money for that!

        Universal healthcare would, ironically, save the government, businesses, and consumers money all at the same time.

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        Is Hamas/IDF genocide against each other some kind of meme that must be mentioned in every comment section now or is this just propaganda?

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          Hamas isn’t in the West Bank. And yet Israel is demolishing houses right now so that settlers can move in. Only one side is perpetrating a genocide.

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              Nothing. It has everything to do with your comment. This isn’t a “both sides” moment. It may have been in the past but Israel is commiting war crimes at a breathtaking pace now.

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      No Democrats or Republicans actually get voted out for voting for shitty things, so where’s the motivation?

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        What did you do the last four years that should make us vote for you again Biden?

        “I’m not Trump”

        Democrat voters cream their pants and run to the voting booth so Genocide Joe can have another 4 years

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      What’s the point of thinking of our government as “the government”? Or changing “We could solve this.” to “They could solve this.”?

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        Considering the military budget is now up to 1.2 trillion a year and we pay for other country’s wars, the government clearly exists to make warmongers wealthier.

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        Oy. Arguing with nihilists is about as useful as pissing into a black hole. You’ll just get your dick turned into spaghetti for the effort, so why bother?

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          All I care about is that people can see what kind of mentality pairs with rhetoric like, “They control us!” It’s not a productive, insightful perspective that speaks helplessness into themselves and others.

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      proof again that the government people could severely curtail homelessness if they wanted to-- they just don’t.

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        That’s why we formed a government, to handle shit like this. A government of the people by the people for the people. it’s their fucking job.

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          The government is just doing what its people want.

          If the people want something different, then they should do something different.

          Haven’t you heard how good the economy is doing?

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                  Homeowners pulling the ladder up after them is the single largest driver of our housing crisis. You literally cannot build more housing in the areas we most need it, due to regulations pushed for, and at times written by, local homeowners.

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    44% of single family homes were purchased by private equity in 2023. Some analysts expect institutional investors to control 40% of the SFH rental market by 2030.

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      And when are the American people going to demand an end to this shit? They represented less than 3% of sfh ownership in 2012. How long until everyone must rent? How long until people are forced to sell due to taxes driving them out of ownership due to inflated pricing from these ghouls?

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        While I’m not 100% about it, Prop 13 in California has some good effects.

        People shouldn’t be tax hiked out of their living quarters. I think most states should have something similar and limit it to only the property you reside in so that property taxes are predictable instead of the incalculable beast they are today in most areas.

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    It’s okay guys. The government is (checks notes) giving money to your land lords with no strings attached.

    I’ll be at the bar if anyone wants to join me.

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    Wait people were getting aid? I thought we all got a couple thousand dollars and thoughts and prayers… That shit dried up in one month.

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        Don’t forget, Biden never wanted to give Covid relief checks either, it was only the threat of Trump promising to do so that caused him to actually do it (in order to win in places like Georgia if I recall correctly). Then he shortchanged everyone on the actual amount he promised (I don’t care if when you read the fine print he was technically correct, that was not how the promise was pitched to voters).

        Trump is far worse, but let’s not forget how pathetic the Democratic Party is at actually helping desperate people.

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          You are definitely correct in the general sense. People actually to the left HAVE to remember: Democrats are allies only against the right. They are not ideologically aligned and no matter how many individuals you can pull left, “Democrats” will never be left or progressive.

          They HAVE to be pushed to do good things. That doesn’t magically make Trump good. Fuck that wannabe dictator and everyone who supports him, but Democrats are allies only against the right.

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            Most Democrat voters are not leftists, so it stands to reason that Democrats would not be leftists.

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    But unemployment is at the lowest ever! We added 200.000 jobs. There was only a soft recession. Line goes up, and just in time for something important. What a coincidence. The economy is so great and we’re back in the bull market!

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      Few seem to care…including those who will one day be there themselves.

      What are those of us who care supposed to be doing?

      Amidst deciding which bills get paid each paycheck, trying to find nutritional variety out of food banks (canned fish intake should ideally be less than 10 cans a month per person, for example, and even rinsing canned vegetables/beans isn’t doing wonders for sodium intake compared to fresh), trying to decide which medical and dental issues we can afford to address and which just get to be endured, and watching debt go to collections because food, insurance, automobile fuel, home energy, rent, and everything related to cars has gone up, what are we supposed to be doing?

      In what way can we unite as a people and fix this?

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        I could not comment as I do not know you, but many people choose nice things like bigger cars, new phone, alcohol and such over quality food. Some however are in a place that they are trapped and have no choice and for those people I have no advice other than to really make some noise and vote accordingly if you are in a country you can.

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    They just to apply themselves, get out there and hustle, bring value, and make others rich! /s

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        It’s probably more a tongue in cheek response to the “everything is fine” attitude they seem to have

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        I would be on the same page as you except Biden tried to take a victory lap on the economy. We’re in the backlash of that right now. You can tell because they’re scrambling to look like they’re lowering prices on anything they can.

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      Homelessness is a very complex issue encompassing things like mental health and climate change. The president has no direct control over rent prices, they may be able to influence them to a degree, but that’s all. This is an integral part of late-stage capitalism. People in need are being left behind because America is filled with greed. One of the many things to help alleviate this would be the construction of subsidized dense housing in areas with high levels of amenities.